EQ Cycle

**Triple Stack** · 02-02-2010, 09:46 AM

I'm contemplating a cycle for summer. I have used Equipoise before many years ago I must say it was one of my all-time favorites. I want to go with it again but do it right this time, with all I've been learning from you all here. When I did it I was about 23, and did an EQ-only cycle (all my cycles back then were not stacked with test - young & ignorant). The results were fantastic & I was living like a rock star - I looked great, the hotties were all over me & I was screwing like a horse

What I really like about EQ is the really low sides, with good solid gains.

But I do see that there is alot of controversy about Boldenone here on the forums.

Can I do a 16-week cycle like this: I'm figuring some test would be prudent but would keep it at a TRT level? To replace my supressed natty test & let the EQ do the work?

EQ: 300mg pin 2x week (600mg total per wk)
Test E: 125mg pin 2x week (250mg total/wk)

Since both are slow to show results, a kick start of Turinabol 30mg first 5 weeks?

Clomid & Nolva for PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

STATS:
6'1"
41 years old
222 lbs
16-18% bodyfat (depends on my cheap scale, sometimes says 24%) - See my Avatar that's what I look like
Cycle Experience: well over 10 cycles, with almost everything but Tren

***D7M*** · 02-02-2010, 09:52 AM

You can try it, but I wouldn't expect much out of the cycle, especially running the test that low.

**tboney** · 02-02-2010, 09:53 AM

I would definately get your diet str8 before running anything. At 23, your bf% was probably lower hence your success with an eq only cycle. Plus your test levels would have been higher at that age. At 41 yrs of age things are going to be different. Get you diet and training in check before you cycle. Your bf% should be at around 10 to 12 % minimum. Get an AI to have on hand in case your estro becomes elevated.

**tboney** · 02-02-2010, 09:55 AM

Also, at 41 it will be harder to recover you might want to consider using some hcg when you cycle. (after getting your bf% down)

**chuckt12345** · 02-02-2010, 09:59 AM

your bf looks fine in that pic

**anabolic1979** · 02-02-2010, 10:04 AM

i would use at least 500mg wk of test. i would add hcg during and like they said have an ai around in case. i love eq i dont get why it gets bad mouthed here so much

**tboney** · 02-02-2010, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

your bf looks fine in that pic

Yea, I have to say, you dont look like you are 24 %? That is what I am basing my comments on.

**Triple Stack** · 02-02-2010, 10:36 AM

Haha, That's why I posted my pic as my avatar! My scale is a WalMart cheapo that gives your weight & BF by standing barefoot on it. It's so out-of-wack I'm 16% one day & 24% the other! So I'm just guesstimating my BF really...I'm too cheap to pay for a bodyfat test.

As to HCG , I would like to do it but a) Don't know how to it - dosing, etc and b) source to purchase from. But considering my age yeah, I think it's important to look into. That's why I'm attracted to the EQ in the first place - minimal sides. If I introduce too much test, doesn't that increase sides & difficulty restarting my HPTA?

**chuckt12345** · 02-02-2010, 10:41 AM

youve cycled over 10 times i would def go get your blood levels checked before you start anything to see where you are at befroe you start.

**tboney** · 02-02-2010, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Triple Stack

Haha, That's why I posted my pic as my avatar! My scale is a WalMart cheapo that gives your weight & BF by standing barefoot on it. It's so out-of-wack I'm 16% one day & 24% the other! So I'm just guesstimating my BF really...I'm too cheap to pay for a bodyfat test.

As to HCG , I would like to do it but a) Don't know how to it - dosing, etc and b) source to purchase from. But considering my age yeah, I think it's important to look into. That's why I'm attracted to the EQ in the first place - minimal sides. If I introduce too much test, doesn't that increase sides & difficulty restarting my HPTA?

If that is you in the pic you are not 24%. I agree totally with chuck. Get bloodwork before you do anything to see where you are. If you want to use hcg swifto has a great thread to follow.

Yes Test does have some sides. Yes it will shut you down. However, using hcg and running the right pct will give you a good shot at full recovery. Not running test will make you vulnerable to sexual sides. I think running 250 to 300 a week will work.

**hankdiesel** · 02-02-2010, 11:34 AM

I think you'll be dissapointed with that cycle.

**Triple Stack** · 02-02-2010, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

youve cycled over 10 times i would def go get your blood levels checked before you start anything to see where you are at befroe you start.

Thanks, I had my bloodwork done in October and the doc said everything looks good (my Test levels were 650; normal range 250-850). That was a few months after a cycle of Deca /Test E, which was my first cycle since 1996.

I did alot of juice in my 20's, and have only returned to it last year. This time I'm following the advice of the learned ones on this board. I used my PCT of Clomid/Nolva for the first time too, which I understand now that at my age is really critical.

I'm looking into HCG too, and will check out Swifto's thread.

**Triple Stack** · 02-02-2010, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

I think you'll be dissapointed with that cycle.

Please let me know why?

Would it be perhaps due to the cost:benefit ratio? Too little gained for as much as it costs?

I'm looking for opinions both positive/negative; I realize there are other compounds that would work better. What choices would someone recommend that gives similar but better results?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-02-2010, 02:48 PM

It's going to be a very mild cycle. However, since you're just getting back into the world of AAS, I don't really see a problem w/ it. Just a couple of suggestions though:

Test-E (weeks 1 - 16) @ 250mg/wk
EQ (weeks 1 - 16) @ 800mg/wk

600mg of EQ is the bare minimum to see gains IMO. I would really consider bumping it up (especially if you're using only a TRT dosage of test.)

If you want to incorporate T-bol then run it @ 60mg for the first 5 - 6 weeks.

30mg of t-bol will literally do nothing to you. lol. If you can't afford T-bol @ 60mg or more, then just swap it for d-bol. (it's cheaper & can be run @ 30mg/ed)

**Bonaparte** · 02-02-2010, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

30mg of t-bol will literally do nothing to you. lol. If you can't afford T-bol @ 60mg or more, then just swap it for d-bol. (it's cheaper & can be run @ 30mg/ed)

I have yet to run Tbol myself, but 40mg is a perfectly effective dose for many. So 30mg should still be decently effective. Obviously this all depends on the quality of the gear.

**Triple Stack** · 02-02-2010, 04:45 PM

Thanks guys. I'll consider 800mg/wk vs 600. The Tbol is ugl & pretty cheap, so I can up the dose a little on that. I still have some Dbol on hand but it really bloats me...don't get me wrong, I love the Dbol but I'd like to give Tbol a try! I've never done it before.