Sustanon, DBOL, and Anavar

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 01:46 PM

Hey guys,

I'm trying to get some knowledge and realize i have a lot to learn, but what do you think about running the last 8 weeks of a 12 week cycle of Sustanon (750mg/wk) with Anavar and D-bol at the same time. I know i should have jump started my cycle with Dbol , but didn't think it was coming, but i got it in today? Just let me know!

**Hard.On** · 02-18-2010, 01:55 PM

In one day you have made practically the same thread 3x

why dont you read one of the other 2 that you havent responded to

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 02:18 PM

those threads have not been exactly the same. they are tweeked a bit and before i do something as serious as this, i want to know exactly what to do before i do it. i come here to educate myself, not to be ridiculed.

i understand your knowledge about aas far exceeds mine, but im just trying to get this right. the more answers i get, the better conclusion i can come up with.

thanks for you help anyway. it makes me realize that everyone here is not to help, but some have the agenda of being "know it alls" to make new comers look stupid. congratulations. you have done your part concerning the latter.

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 02:28 PM

don't be such a dick bro, all he's saying is look around and search a little bit. THere is a ton of information on this site that requires you to look it up. Garuntee all the answers you seek are on here but you are being lazy and don't want put the work in to find them.

**Hard.On** · 02-18-2010, 02:42 PM

no ones ridiculing you you

what are your stats?

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 02:44 PM

axe,

i have been doing my research. i just have not found anything about combining anabol (dbol ) and anavar together. i apologize to whomever i was being rude to.

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 02:57 PM

So after your research you've come to the conclusion that you should run dbol at the end of your cycle for 8 weeks???????????????????????

My friend, you are not ready.

**Hard.On** · 02-18-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by dock holliday

axe,

i have been doing my research. i just have not found anything about combining anabol (dbol) and anavar together. i apologize to whomever i was being rude to.

Great,

Now what are your Stats

**Aodha** · 02-18-2010, 03:07 PM

Even without knowing your stats, I'd sat no don't go it. Save your orals for another cycle. Using them to kickstart is done for a reason. Because the test hasn't kicked in yet, hence kickstart. So adding orals at the end when your body is already running on all six cylinders isn't a good idea. That's my two cents.

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 03:08 PM

to be honest, i know most people run it to kick off a cycle. i had this one guy yesterday say he did dbol at the end of a cycle and loved it.

im going to stick with the info that the web posts and just hold off on the dbol ds.

if i just stick with the sustanon for 12 weeks and do the proper pct, and hold off 3 months. do you think an 8 week cycle of dbol (30/40/50/60/60/50/40/30) with Anavar (50mg/day) would be okay? Or is that just two much stress on the liver.

my stats are 5'11", 195 lbs., 20-22% bf (according to my doctor), but my $20 body fat and weight scale says almost 30%. I am going to go to a dietician to get a true BF measure next week. I have broad shoulders, small waist (34), I'm not ripped, but don't have love handles or look fat. My goal is to gain more muscle, lose body fat eventually (i hear if you have more muscle you can lose more fat later), and get bigger calves.

sorry for being a dick earlier twotimer.

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 03:09 PM

not to mention his liver will crap out taking 8 weeks of dbol .

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 03:11 PM

how many cycles do you have under your belt?

**Hard.On** · 02-18-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by dock holliday

to be honest, i know most people run it to kick off a cycle. i had this one guy yesterday say he did dbol at the end of a cycle and loved it.

im going to stick with the info that the web posts and just hold off on the dbol ds.

if i just stick with the sustanon for 12 weeks and do the proper pct, and hold off 3 months. do you think an 8 week cycle of dbol (30/40/50/60/60/50/40/30) with Anavar (50mg/day) would be okay? Or is that just two much stress on the liver.

my stats are 5'11", 195 lbs., 20-22% bf (according to my doctor), but my $20 body fat and weight scale says almost 30%. I am going to go to a dietician to get a true BF measure next week. I have broad shoulders, small waist (34), I'm not ripped, but don't have love handles or look fat. My goal is to gain more muscle, lose body fat eventually (i hear if you have more muscle you can lose more fat later), and get bigger calves.

sorry for being a dick earlier twotimer.

Apology Accepted,
you forgot your age but it doesnt matter.
Your bodyfat is too high, you will develop Tits on this cycle.

I dont like that cycle

Here is my advice:

Fix your diet
Get to around 14% bodyfat and keep your weight around 200lbs

When you get to here you will almost ready to cycle
Do some more research in the mean time on test/anavar/adex/nolva/clomid/sustanon

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 03:19 PM

I want to know how many cycles he has done, i.e. does he know Sus should be administered every other day to take advantage of the propanate?

Why is he pyramiding dbol ????

Too many unknowns, I would suggest to hold off too.

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 03:23 PM

thanks guys.

i've learned a lot today.

your help is greatly appreciated. im going to do more research and intstead of just reading what i want online, im going to print out articles and research them in detail.

**stokedv** · 02-18-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by twotimer

Apology Accepted,
you forgot your age but it doesnt matter.
Your bodyfat is too high, you will develop Tits on this cycle.

I dont like that cycle

Here is my advice:

Fix your diet
Get to around 14% bodyfat and keep your weight around 200lbs

When you get to here you will almost ready to cycle
Do some more research in the mean time on test/anavar/adex/nolva/clomid/sustanon

X two million hundred times bro listen to twotimer DIET IS CRUCIAL i cannot emphasize this enough.. and to answer your original question you will fokup your liver if you do orals at the end of a cycle.. you will anyways even with liv52 you gotta do BW to be sure if everything is fine.. are you having any BW at all? keep your orals for your next one to kickstart.. I think that would be the smartest decision?

**dock holliday** · 02-18-2010, 03:28 PM

axe,

i thought pyramiding dbol was the proper way to do dbol? should it just always be at the same level?

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 04:07 PM

This is what you should be doing:

weeks

1 - 5 dbol (50mg) don't pyramid!!

1-12 200mg Sus every other day

i never took anavar so I can't offer you much advice on that but I heard 50mgs a day is a good dose but not sure for how long..

End with you PCT.

weeks

Day 1 100mg Clomid Day 3 50mg Day 7 till end of wk 2 25mg

1-4 25mg nolva

if you want to keep water off you can throw in some aromasin

this is just something quick i put together...

**axemurderer187** · 02-18-2010, 04:11 PM

the best advice is to always "KISS" for new guys, keep it simple stupid. Seriously, just cover your basics. The more cycles you do you will discover what works for you and what doesn't. The compounds that you really react well too, well next time just beef them up in your next cycle. The ones that you weren't really satisfied with, drop them...... just in conclusion keep it simple. Cover your PCT, and make sure you eat!