Testosterone Propionate Cycle Started but...

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 08:40 AM

...I am having severe diarrhoea and I did only two injections in the last two days of about 60 mg each.
The ester I have on my test prop is named "Ethyl Oleate".
Anyone has ever experienced anything like that?

I am thinking to quit and swap to enanthate since I would have there another type of oil, named "Arachis Oil".

Thank you

**Dr Pepper** · 03-12-2010, 08:44 AM

Can't giv much advice but when I had some prop last year same thing happened to me, wasn't fun!, but it did go away after awhile...

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Pepper

Can't giv much advice but when I had some prop last year same thing happened to me, wasn't fun!, but it did go away after awhile...

How did you cope with the diarrhoea?
and can you quantify "after a while"?

***D7M*** · 03-12-2010, 09:02 AM

Yah it could be the EO that you're reacting negatively to, if nothing else has changed recently (eg, diet)

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

Yah it could be the EO that you're reacting negatively to, if nothing else has changed recently (eg, diet)

Diet did not change, what could I do?

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 03-12-2010, 09:17 AM

I think increased iron intake will harden stool, ut do not quote me on that as i don't have a source of info to give you. But i believe it can help. Not sure if more iron will affect your diet in a negative way, ubt that's what i have heard.

"dirty d"

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ

I think increased iron intake will harden stool, ut do not quote me on that as i don't have a source of info to give you. But i believe it can help. Not sure if more iron will affect your diet in a negative way, ubt that's what i have heard.

"dirty d"

I did not know that, I will check it out, thanks.

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 03-12-2010, 09:56 AM

Like i said don't quote that, but i believe that iron levels determine whether or not the stool floats or sinks. Gross i know, but i think this is what i learned in high school my friend. The only thing i think i may be confusing this with may be fiber, but i don't think so? Correct me if you find otherwise, i'll continue to look as weel

good luck,

"dirty d"

**the big 1** · 03-12-2010, 10:02 AM

Bjj - check pm

**evil30** · 03-12-2010, 10:21 AM

Did you saying you are taking Test prop or Test poop?

**amostofi1999** · 03-12-2010, 10:49 AM

are you going to log this cycle bjj?

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 03-12-2010, 11:05 AM

Bjj- i google searched iron and diahreah, and it said that most doctors say iron will cause constipation ( hardened stool obviously) like i thought, but they also say that as a counter side, it also can cause diahreah itself? That seems contradictory to me, but thats what it reads. If you need i'll post the read.

Good luck,

"dirty d"

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-12-2010, 11:13 AM

You could be having somewhat of an allergic reaction to the EO.

IMO, it's one of the most common oils / solvents to react to. So yes, perhaps there is a correlation between the two. Another oil that some people have problems w/ is Cottonseed oil.

The Diarrhea might be unrelated; I would try and remain on the prop for a couple more days to see if it clears up.. Otherwise, I would switch to another compound, or another oil

-VM

**tjax03** · 03-12-2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ

Like i said don't quote that, but i believe that iron levels determine whether or not the stool floats or sinks. Gross i know, but i think this is what i learned in high school my friend. The only thing i think i may be confusing this with may be fiber, but i don't think so? Correct me if you find otherwise, i'll continue to look as weel

good luck,

"dirty d"

Iron my affect stool composition, but its not becuase of the amount of iron in the stool. Be careful taking iron supplements. Too much iron can be very dangerous.

**tjax03** · 03-12-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

...I am having severe diarrhoea and I did only two injections in the last two days of about 60 mg each.
The ester I have on my test prop is named "Ethyl Oleate".
Anyone has ever experienced anything like that?

I am thinking to quit and swap to enanthate since I would have there another type of oil, named "Arachis Oil".

Thank you

The Ethyl Oleate is not attached to the testosterone , rather it is a solvent used to dissolve the compound.

**wormwood** · 03-12-2010, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ

Like i said don't quote that, but i believe that iron levels determine whether or not the stool floats or sinks. Gross i know, but i think this is what i learned in high school my friend. The only thing i think i may be confusing this with may be fiber, but i don't think so? Correct me if you find otherwise, i'll continue to look as weel

good luck,

"dirty d"

This is actually primarily determined by the levels of fat in your stool. Fatty stools float.

**wormwood** · 03-12-2010, 12:47 PM

At least according to my proffessor (disclaimer...I did no research). I am im medical school though and according to one of my profs this is the case. It CAN be a symptom of a malabsorption syndrome.

**evil30** · 03-12-2010, 12:47 PM

Wow, you guys really know your sh!t....... LOL

**Hard.On** · 03-12-2010, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by evil30

Wow, you guys really know your sh!t....... LOL

^^ Haha

I would give it a week and see where your at. Its weird that your body reacted so quickly.

Maybe you just have the shits
1. An adjective meaning awful, horrible, or the worst. The opposite of 'the shits' is 'the shit', used to describe something that rules or is generally really awesome. 'The shits' generally refers to something that sucks to just short of the greatest extent possible.

2. Another word for diarrhea. You get the shits when you eat something that makes your feces take on a primarily liquid form.
"Man, Weenus's breath is the shits. I can't believe I let him hiss right up my nose. It's so disgusting but I just can't stop."

"I sure wish I hadn't eaten all that rat shit. I think I'll have the shits for the rest of my miserable life..."

**marcus300** · 03-12-2010, 01:12 PM

What colour is your diarrhoea?

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by evil30

Did you saying you are taking Test prop or Test poop?

Originally Posted by amostofi1999

are you going to log this cycle bjj?

yes, i am waiting for the blood work and dexa.

Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ

Bjj- i google searched iron and diahreah, and it said that most doctors say iron will cause constipation ( hardened stool obviously) like i thought, but they also say that as a counter side, it also can cause diahreah itself? That seems contradictory to me, but thats what it reads. If you need i'll post the read.

Good luck,

"dirty d"

please post it, thanks.

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

You could be having somewhat of an allergic reaction to the EO.

IMO, it's one of the most common oils / solvents to react to. So yes, perhaps there is a correlation between the two. Another oil that some people have problems w/ is Cottonseed oil.

The Diarrhea might be unrelated; I would try and remain on the prop for a couple more days to see if it clears up.. Otherwise, I would switch to another compound, or another oil

-VM

your suggestion is what i intended to do in the first place.
thank you

**slimy** · 03-12-2010, 01:31 PM

I know you are not anywhere around here, but there is a 'bug' going on where I'm at. I've had diarrhea and the flu for several days, totally unrelated to steroids . (I've lost a ton of weight, unfortunately).

It could be the gear. It may have nothing to do with the gear. My advice, keep plugging along and see if it clears up. I recommend pepto.

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by tjax03

Iron my affect stool composition, but its not becuase of the amount of iron in the stool. Be careful taking iron supplements. Too much iron can be very dangerous.

correct

Originally Posted by tjax03

The Ethyl Oleate is not attached to the testosterone, rather it is a solvent used to dissolve the compound.

you are right again...

Originally Posted by wormwood

At least according to my proffessor (disclaimer...I did no research). I am im medical school though and according to one of my profs this is the case. It CAN be a symptom of a malabsorption syndrome.

Originally Posted by marcus300

What colour is your diarrhoea?

brown, mostly light and it is almost water.

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by slimy

I know you are not anywhere around here, but there is a 'bug' going on where I'm at. I've had diarrhea and the flu for several days, totally unrelated to steroids . (I've lost a ton of weight, unfortunately).

It could be the gear. It may have nothing to do with the gear. My advice, keep plugging along and see if it clears up. I recommend pepto.

what is that?

**marcus300** · 03-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

brown, mostly light and it is almost water.

Thats it then, the answer is

YOUR FULL OF SHIT

XX

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Thats it then, the answer is

YOUR FULL OF SHIT

XX

and you call me an odd person, lol?

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 08:18 PM

3:10 am here in Rome and I am going from the bed to the toilet and viceversa!

I am wondering if I had purchased testosterone suspension in water instead of propionate in oil...

**depfife** · 03-12-2010, 08:46 PM

I inject 100 mg oil based testosterone propionate per day.. never any diarrhea... could it be you are just a little sick?

**BJJ** · 03-12-2010, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by depfife

I inject 100 mg oil based testosterone propionate per day.. never any diarrhea... could it be you are just a little sick?

Lucky you man.
No, I am not sick.

**stevey_6t9** · 03-12-2010, 10:24 PM

try anti diarrhea pharmacy meds like immodium

**Vitruvian-Man** · 03-12-2010, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

3:10 am here in Rome and I am going from the bed to the toilet and viceversa!

I am wondering if I had purchased testosterone suspension in water instead of propionate in oil...

Nah bro, I don't think you shot suspension. This is your first injectable cycle right? You literally wouldn't be able to move IMO lol. Suspension is x10 the pain of prop.

I think you're probably thinking it's water based suspension because your prop is clear? am I correct?

If so, that's not true. Your prop is clear because the solvent (EO) is see-through.

-VM

**Shadeed** · 03-13-2010, 12:23 AM

Sorry to hear this BJJ, you've got many good advices here but here you go another advice: Drink plenty of fluids, but stay away from caffeine and alcohol. Drinks like ginger ale or carrot juice is good for making the stools less watery.

Also check the picture attached...

**BJJ** · 03-13-2010, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

try anti diarrhea pharmacy meds like immodium

I took 16 mg (8 pills) in the last 24 hours and it did not work at all.
Usually it does.

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Nah bro, I don't think you shot suspension. This is your first injectable cycle right? You literally wouldn't be able to move IMO lol. Suspension is x10 the pain of prop.

I think you're probably thinking it's water based suspension because your prop is clear? am I correct?

If so, that's not true. Your prop is clear because the solvent (EO) is see-through.

-VM

I meant if I had used suspension (I have access to the one with water and no oil) I could have avoided the diarrohea!!!
Problem is I did not know I could have become so ill because of an oil but I am aware it is prop what I used.

Anyway, since I just ordered 5000 mg of suspension (10 weeks @ 60 mg x day x 2 shots) but have also on hand test en (7500 mg), how would you suggest me to go over the next two weeks in the mean while I await the test susp?

Should I stop the cycle right away, since I injected only 120 mg of test prop in the last 48 hours, and wait for the suspension to start a new cycle?

Or, should I use the test en to hold on for a couple of weeks?
In that case then my cycle would be long 14 weeks, perhaps too much?

Thanks for your advice

Originally Posted by Shadeed

Sorry to hear this BJJ, you've got many good advices here but here you go another advice: Drink plenty of fluids, but stay away from caffeine and alcohol. Drinks like ginger ale or carrot juice is good for making the stools less watery.

Also check the picture attached...

Thanks a lot, I was unaware about a few statements there.

**BJJ** · 03-14-2010, 05:37 AM

Today I made my third injection (trap) while yesterday I took one day off.
If I do not get diarrhoea back I will keep going with test prop, otherwise I have on hand test en while awaiting test susp to arrive.

**ghettoboyd** · 03-14-2010, 05:44 AM

dam man trap injection....sound painfull.....

**BJJ** · 03-14-2010, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

dam man trap injection....sound painfull.....

Yes indeed, tears came from my eyes...
But pain is part of life and I must accept it!!!

**stevey_6t9** · 03-14-2010, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Yes indeed, tears came from my eyes...
But pain is part of life and I must accept it!!!

any test flu or post injection pain?

**Okinawa_Power** · 03-14-2010, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

...I am having severe diarrhoea and I did only two injections in the last two days of about 60 mg each.
The ester I have on my test prop is named "Ethyl Oleate".
Anyone has ever experienced anything like that?

I am thinking to quit and swap to enanthate since I would have there another type of oil, named "Arachis Oil".

Thank you

BJJ The same thing happened to me after I did my first pin...I had diarrhea for about 1/2 day...then it went away.....I do my second pin tomorrow and I will let you know if the same thing happens......

**Okinawa_Power** · 03-14-2010, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Yes indeed, tears came from my eyes...
But pain is part of life and I must accept it!!!

You injected into your ****ing trap???? You are ****ing crazy BJJ!!!!!!! But you are right..."Make Pain a Friend and you will have a Friend for life"<--William Shakesphere........