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    sfour_tay is offline Member
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    going from a lean bulk to a cutter....mast/t3/clen/cardio cardio cardio

    so i was going to run a lean bulk this spring with some npp but i have decided i want to cut instead.

    i have t3 and clen that i will run and i wanted something to run along with the t3 that helped with the catabolic effects of the t3

    i was going to go with winny at 100mg a day but i cant find any so......


    i have about 45 cc's of mast on hand and was thinking some like this



    run the mast at 500mg a wk pinned ed
    clen 1 week on 1 week off with keto in the off week. ramped up to 100mcg
    t3 ramped up to 125 mcg and then ramped back down


    now im debating if i should run this for 8 weeks or drop to 6 and just up the dosage of the mast up.


    what do you guys think?


    ps i know diet is the key part in this cycle.

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    Vitruvian-Man is offline Banned
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    You aren't planning on including a test base? not even at a TRT dosage?!

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    why one week on and one week of with the clen and then keto inbetween? you can run the clen past 2 weeks if you take keto ed, no need to stop and go

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    i have some prop that i could use but idk...

    if i had hcg on hand i would be running my test p, npp, mast cycle then into a cutting phase with the t3 and clen and maybe some winny.....but i dont have any hcg or dosinex or armidex.


    im unclear about how much the mast will shut me down.


    would test prop at 300mg a week and mast at 500mg a week shut me down more than just 500mg of mast a week alone ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfour_tay View Post
    i have some prop that i could use but idk...

    if i had hcg on hand i would be running my test p, npp, mast cycle then into a cutting phase with the t3 and clen and maybe some winny.....but i dont have any hcg or dosinex or armidex.


    im unclear about how much the mast will shut me down.


    would test prop at 300mg a week and mast at 500mg a week shut me down more than just 500mg of mast a week alone ???
    why don't you just start the cycle and use HCG in the last 3 - 4 weeks leading up to the PCT? And then use a clomid/nolvadex PCT to help restore your HPTA function...

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    I'd do 8 weeks of Test Prop 50mgs/day and Mast 75mgs/day. I'd do the clen either 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, or continuous along with Keto. The T3 looks good as you have it. I think you'd be fine without using the HCG , but I would definitely run a good PCT and include Arimidex during the cycle. You can pick up some of that soon enough if you dont have any on hand. As for shutting you down, I think 500mgs/week of Mast would shut you down enough to justify going ahead and including the Prop. I love Masteron !! Well thats my 2 cents. Good luck!

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    thanks bros.

    ok so im going to run it for 8 weeks at 500mg mast and 300mg prop.

    i have clomid and nolva but i cant get my hands on hcg which really sux cuz i love the stuff.

    as far as arimidex what sort of dosage should i be using and how often eod or ed?

    i would love to throw some igf in there but i just moved and i dont have jack for a supplier so i guess ill have to wait.

    im going to start this may 1st so i have some time to keep looking. i may just hit up ar-r for dex.

    thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfour_tay View Post
    thanks bros.

    ok so im going to run it for 8 weeks at 500mg mast and 300mg prop.

    i have clomid and nolva but i cant get my hands on hcg which really sux cuz i love the stuff.

    as far as arimidex what sort of dosage should i be using and how often eod or ed?

    i would love to throw some igf in there but i just moved and i dont have jack for a supplier so i guess ill have to wait.

    im going to start this may 1st so i have some time to keep looking. i may just hit up ar-r for dex.

    thanks guys.
    I'm pretty sure ar-r also sells IGF.. might wanna check. I'm not 100%.

    If you don't have the a-dex in time you could always use nolvadex @ 10mg/ed while on cycle, just to block breast tissue receptors.

    a-dex can be run @ 0.25mg/eod

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    just ordered some adex last night.

    i know they have igf but its really expensive and i dont know how good it is so i guess i will wait.

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