First time cycle... Cypionate, Deca, Winstrol

**EngineerOne** · 03-21-2010, 10:02 PM

I am a first time steroid user and have already gotten what I am going to use. I have Deca 200mg per ml (10 ml), Test Cypionate 250 mg per ml (10 ml), and Winstrol 100mg per ml (10 ml).

What would be the best way to stack these three steroids for the best results?

**G4R** · 03-21-2010, 10:06 PM

Stats?

Age
Height
Weight
BF%
Diet Details
Training Exp
PCT Knowledge
Goals

**EngineerOne** · 03-21-2010, 10:17 PM

-27 yr old male
-5'9"
-183 lbs
-% body fat unknown (I am not super lean, but by NO MEANS fat or overweight)
-Working out 4-6 days per week w/out supplements for past 5 months
-Knowledge: Novice (Self education)
-Goals: Strength and vanity. Larger (not bodybuiler large), stronger, and more cut

Sorry for my lack of details, but I woul appreciate any help.

**G4R** · 03-21-2010, 10:44 PM

Well, with this being your first cycle, I try to recommend everyone read this first:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

Just make sure you understand what you are doing ^^^

Next, you dont need all those compounds on your first cycle, Test will be enough. Now read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742
I dont think you need the Dbol , so just stick with the Test.

**lovestospooge23** · 03-21-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by EngineerOne

I am a first time steroid user and have already gotten what I am going to use. I have Deca 200mg per ml (10 ml), Test Cypionate 250 mg per ml (10 ml), and Winstrol 100mg per ml (10 ml).

What would be the best way to stack these three steroids for the best results?

you shouldn't stack on your first cycle.

**EngineerOne** · 03-21-2010, 10:55 PM

Thanks for the threads.

Though you said I dont need the dbol . i do not have dbol, I have Deca (nandrolone ).

And if you suggest I only use the test, how do you suggest that I take it? And what about the Win? Any recommendations on how I shoul take that? I have a friend who has gotten amazing cutting results with it.

Again, Thanks.

**G4R** · 03-21-2010, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by EngineerOne

Thanks for the threads.

Though you said I dont need the dbol . i do not have dbol, I have Deca (nandrolone ).

And if you suggest I only use the test, how do you suggest that I take it? And what about the Win? Any recommendations on how I shoul take that? I have a friend who has gotten amazing cutting results with it.

Again, Thanks.

The Test beginner thread mentioned using Dbol, thats why I said I dont think you need that.

The Test beginner thread should have laid out a recommended dosage for the Test, usually around 500mg a week, divided into two injections a week.

Dont run the Winstrol , you need to find out how your body is going to react to Test alone first. If you run more than one compound the first time around, and you develop some sides, you will need to know what compound caused what. If you run two compounds, you wont know which one caused you problems if you get them.

**EngineerOne** · 03-22-2010, 11:58 AM

Ok, thanks. I went back an re-read the thread... On another note, If I were to wanted to do the Test cycle, and then do the Deca down the road about how much time do you suggest I put b/w the two cycles given that each is a 5 week cycle?

**Mooseman33** · 03-22-2010, 12:48 PM

what do u have planned for PCT?

**sarasotafloridabrian** · 03-22-2010, 01:01 PM

man that sounds extreme for a first cycle

**EngineerOne** · 03-22-2010, 01:24 PM

I have already aquired Nolvadex and Clomid for my PCT. I am going to take the advice and not stack on my first cycle, but since i am doing such a short (5 week) cycle, how much time should i have before doing my 5 week Deca cycle?

**cobra305** · 03-22-2010, 01:40 PM

At 5 weeks you are just going to start feeling the effects of the test. If you are going to run this cycle you should get more test and run it for 10 weeks and save the deca for another cycle.

**irishpride408** · 03-22-2010, 01:45 PM

hey bro put the stuff on a shelf and read as much as you can on this forum before you do anything. you have no clue what your doing, read read read, you will be wasting money and doing your body harm if you don't know what your doing. follow the beginners cycle sticky thats what it's there for,

**B1gDaddy** · 03-22-2010, 01:46 PM

I might have mis understood but have you only been working out for 5 months.. like ever? if so, you wouldnt want to start cycling so early because you'll end up ripping a tendon or something

**TwoGuns** · 03-22-2010, 03:01 PM

irishpride408
hey bro put the stuff on a shelf and read as much as you can on this forum before you do anything. you have no clue what your doing, read read read, you will be wasting money and doing your body harm if you don't know what your doing. follow the beginners cycle sticky thats what it's there for,

so cliche. did you copy and paste that all by yourself?

**EngineerOne** · 03-22-2010, 03:29 PM

No, I have not been working out for 5 months total my whole life... I have been working out since I was 17 and I am now 27. Only I did have periods of inactivity from time to time, but I usually only made it to the gym a couple times a week. 5 months ago is when i really committed myself to improving my health and satisfying my vanity.

Would it be a waste of my gear if i were to do the first 5 weeks with the Test C, and then do 5 weeks with Deca 250???

I appreciate all your input.

**Bloodsaw** · 03-22-2010, 05:00 PM

get another vial of test c and got for at least 8 weeks

**EngineerOne** · 03-22-2010, 09:34 PM

And has anyone ever heard of VIG BIOSCIENCES, this is the brand of the Deca .

**D_iamond** · 04-01-2010, 05:12 PM

ya man i just got some VIG and i cant find anybody (on the web) that uses it and says anything let alone how to know if its a knock off and iff they have a factory site are you getting good results from the deca i have test enth 250

**slimy** · 04-02-2010, 12:40 PM

Get some more test. Do 10 weeks of 500mg/test. Then PCT.

Then, 14 weeks later you can do another cycle. NOT DECA BY ITSELF. I can tell by your writing that is your plan. Deca by itself, without test will screw up your sex life.

You have plenty of time. Stay on this forum. Read the stickies. Educate yourself. You are in the middle of a wealth of information.

**taiboxa** · 04-02-2010, 12:55 PM

its a solid cycle.. test, nor and a dht.. i dig it.. and low doses i assume your taking 1ml of each/wk and the win? you need more of it if you wish to run it properly..
but with that being said.. your knowledge on AAS does NOT warrant its use... you need to learn more, read more and show some self control and patience... while your researching aas you might as well get a better grasp on a proper diet .. which will help immensely w/ your cycle..