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03-23-2010, 12:27 PM #1New Member
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Combining building and boxing, cycle advice?
First the basics:
BW: 93 kg (205 pounds)
BF: 9-12%
Height: 177 cm
Experience: Done arond 10 cycles before, but I've been off for a while (6 months).
The reason why I wanted some input on this cycle is that I've started boxing again, and I wan't this cycle to not interfere with my progress.
Another thing is that I'm extremely prone to acne, and therefore will be using accutane @ 20 mg ED. Keep this in mind regarding orals.
Cycle length should be 10 weeks, since I only have 100 days worth of accutane (need it in PCT to).
Test/tren maybe?
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03-23-2010, 12:35 PM #2
Tren can affect cardio for some people not for me though. I don`t box per say but I do train with a heavy bag and speed bag frequently. I am currently on week 2 of a Test/Tren/EQ cycle and love it though at this point the gear is just starting to pool in my blood. What si your main goal from the cycle? size? bf reduction?? endurance?
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03-23-2010, 12:49 PM #3New Member
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When you say affect cardio, you mean in a negative way? I guess EQ can increase cardio due to the blood cell increase? Problem tough is that it's a little to slow for a 10 week cycle..
Goal is size, strength and endurance. Endurance-wise i'm happy as long as it's not affected negatively.
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03-23-2010, 12:52 PM #4
See that's why tren may not be the best choice, some have reduced cardio capacity while on tren. Again I do not experience this side myself but it is very common. Test is always a great base and the eq would work but as you noted 10 weeks is a little short for the eq. Something like Test with anavar might work.
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03-23-2010, 04:28 PM #5New Member
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I ran a 6 week Test E/Decca cycle, as well as a Test E/dbol cycle while training and competing. The dbol seemed to make me feel sluggish. And my face would feel real hot and puffy when after about 3 rounds on the heavy bag or after about a mile of running. I ended up stopping the dbol because it made me feel shitty while doing any kind of cardio. The test/decca wasn't bad. I just had to cut the extra weight to make it back down to welter weight.
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03-23-2010, 04:56 PM #6
dont use extreme compounds like win or tren they will dry you out n' affect your stamina
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03-26-2010, 09:07 PM #7New Member
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So far it seems like test/anavar would be the best alternative.
Question now is how much anavar would give me compared to a slight increase in test? Most of the pro's with anavar, like low HPTA (spelling?) effect, no estrogen etc will anyways be countered by the testosterone ? Adding anavar will most likely double the cost of the cycle. Money isn't really a big issue, but will it be worth it compared to just increasing test?
Also, how will the waterweight affect my performance? Would you guys recommend a high dose of ari to avoid it, or do the increased effect caused by estrogen make it worth the extra weight?
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03-27-2010, 10:46 AM #8New Member
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Bump on that last question
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