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    Post Tren Cycle | Final adivces/comments to start very soon, Thanks...

    Finally i was able to get all the Test P needed to stack it with Tren A & Proviron :

    1st My Stats:

    Height: 180cm
    Weight: 95 Kg
    BF%: 10-13%
    10 years serious training.
    This will be cycle no#6 but 1st time doing Tren.


    My Planned cycle setup:

    - Weeks 1-10 --> Test P @ 50 mg ED
    - Weeks 1-10 --> Proviron @ 100 mg ED
    - Weeks 1-7 --> Tren A @ 40 mg ED
    - Weeks 8-9 --> Tren A @ 70 mg ED
    - Weeks 1-12 --> Vit B6 @ 200mg ED
    - Weeks 1-12 --> Finasteride @ 1 mg ED

    I have the following as well (will be used if needed):

    - Bromocriptine (1box | 30Tab | 2.5mg each)
    - Cabergoline (1box | 2Tabs | 0.5mg each)
    - Nolvadex (1box | 30Tabs | 10mg each)

    I can get more if needed during the cycle.

    PCT is just the regular 4 weeks PCT:

    - Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
    - Clomid: 150/100/50/50
    - Albuterol, 4-6mg 3times (every 4 hours) + 2-3mg ketotifen before bed time.

    Not sure about HcG , what is available here is only the 5000iu and we do not have BW to split that dose as per the most popular protocols, this means that if i will take it, i will be taking it all at once (5000iu one shot)

    - HcG 5000iu one injection per week (weeks 8,9 & 10) i do not know what do you think?

    Any last comments or advices about my cycle setup and PCT?

    Regards,
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    That is sort of an odd dosage of tren A (40mg ED) and not sure why you are only bump up your tren week 8-9. Why not just stick with 50mg ED of tren?
    Do you have MPB?
    I'm sure you will need either bromo or caber but glad you have it on hand.
    Not sure you need 150 of clomid for the first week, 100 should be fine.
    I would use HCG for your PCT, reach out to either swifto or titanium or phate on the dosages.
    I can't give you advice on proviron because I have never taken it, so I don't like to give advice on it unless I have ran it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    That is sort of an odd dosage of tren A (40mg ED) and not sure why you are only bump up your tren week 8-9. Why not just stick with 50mg ED of tren?
    Do you have MPB?
    I'm sure you will need either bromo or caber but glad you have it on hand.
    Not sure you need 150 of clomid for the first week, 100 should be fine.
    I would use HCG for your PCT, reach out to either swifto or titanium or phate on the dosages.
    I can't give you advice on proviron because I have never taken it, so I don't like to give advice on it unless I have ran it.
    Thanks Rana, i have 3 Vials of Tren Ace 100mg/1ml and my cycle is Test P for 10weeks and planning to run Tren for 7 weeks and if i like the results i want to extend it 2 more weeks at a higher dose. I can do Tren A for 8.5 weeks straight @ 50mg with what i have but i thought it will not make a difference if i started at 40mg ED instead of 50mg ED, but i think it will make a difference running it at 70mg for 2 more weeks at the end if i started at 40mg

    For the MPB, I don't think so, i am 33 years old with all of my hair

    PCT adjusted (in Red):
    - Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20
    - Clomid: 100/50/50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Finally i was able to get all the Test P needed to stack it with Tren A & Proviron :

    1st My Stats:

    Height: 180cm
    Weight: 95 Kg
    BF%: 10-13%
    10 years serious training.
    This will be cycle no#6 but 1st time doing Tren.


    My Planned cycle setup:

    - Weeks 1-10 --> Test P @ 50 mg ED
    - Weeks 1-10 --> Proviron @ 100 mg ED Why not an AI?- Weeks 1-7 --> Tren A @ 40 mg ED
    - Weeks 8-9 --> Tren A @ 70 mg ED
    - Weeks 1-12 --> Vit B6 @ 200mg ED This will reduce AR-gene transciption and make your cycle less effective. Higher doses will also cause CNS damage...- Weeks 1-12 --> Finasteride @ 1 mg ED Why? MPB?

    I have the following as well (will be used if needed):


    - Bromocriptine (1box | 30Tab | 2.5mg each)
    - Cabergoline (1box | 2Tabs | 0.5mg each)
    - Nolvadex (1box | 30Tabs | 10mg each)

    Good, keep them on hand.

    I can get more if needed during the cycle.

    PCT is just the regular 4 weeks PCT:

    - Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
    - Clomid: 150/100/50/50
    - Albuterol, 4-6mg 3times (every 4 hours) + 2-3mg ketotifen before bed time.

    If you can take the sides of Clomid at 150mg/ED, use it at that dose, if not lower the dose. You only need an initial large dose of Clomid OR Tamox. maximum for 3-7 days.

    Not sure about HcG , what is available here is only the 5000iu and we do not have BW to split that dose as per the most popular protocols, this means that if i will take it, i will be taking it all at once (5000iu one shot)

    Split it using an emtpy sterile 10ML vial mixed with bac water. You need HCG. You need it even more when using progestins.

    - HcG 5000iu one injection per week (weeks 8,9 & 10) i do not know what do you think?

    Any last comments or advices about my cycle setup and PCT?

    Regards,
    Shadeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
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    Thanks Swifto, the issue with the hcg is that i can't get bac water! what should i do now?

    Clomid, the max that i used before was 100mg for 7 days and then 50mg for 21 days.

    No MPB but i read it will prevent Prostate enlargement, is that true?

    I am using Proviron to stack it with the Test, i used it before with good results, and thought at 100mg PE it will be effective as an AI as well. also, i found that Adex, Aromi & Letro are very expensive.

    For B6, is it risky at 200mg per day?

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    the only advice I have to give is get a second set of sheets ready. sometimes the night sweats are brutal and it sucks getting back into wet sheets. and if you sleep with someone let them now what is up so they dont think you pissed the bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy;5128***
    the only advice I have to give is get a second set of sheets ready. sometimes the night sweats are brutal and it sucks getting back into wet sheets. and if you sleep with someone let them now what is up so they dont think you pissed the bed.
    is it that bad?

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    Swifto and Rana have this covered.

    We have great members here.

    Truly intelligent, knowledgeable members.

    They should call Swifto, Dr. Swifto.......

    (sorry I could not get to your pm soon enough, I'm at work).

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    Swifto and Rana have this covered.

    We have great members here.

    Truly intelligent, knowledgeable members.

    They should call Swifto, Dr. Swifto.......

    (sorry I could not get to your pm soon enough, I'm at work).

    Best

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    No problem, Thanks T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Thanks Swifto, the issue with the hcg is that i can't get bac water! what should i do now?

    Clomid, the max that i used before was 100mg for 7 days and then 50mg for 21 days.

    No MPB but i read it will prevent Prostate enlargement, is that true?

    I am using Proviron to stack it with the Test, i used it before with good results, and thought at 100mg PE it will be effective as an AI as well. also, i found that Adex, Aromi & Letro are very expensive.

    For B6, is it risky at 200mg per day?
    Why? Its obtainable from the site sponsor.

    So will saw palmetto. Have you had postate issues? If not, you dont need it.

    Proviron can be used to counter estrogenic sides, but I found it almost useless. If it works for you, use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Why? Its obtainable from the site sponsor.
    Bac Water, or even any supplements will be hard as hell to get them delivered to Egypt, the customs here are not allowing anyone to export medicine or supplements, only pharma. companies are allowed to do so! still do not know what to do? should i take the whole 5000iu each weeks for 3 weeks?
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    So will saw palmetto. Have you had postate issues? If not, you dont need it.
    I found Saw Palmetto product in the pharmacy and this brand contain 450 mg Saw Palmetto, is this too much? if yes, what is a reasonable dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    is it that bad?
    I'm into 5th week of tren A was on 50ed but bumped to 75ed as s/e were well tolerated, hardly any sweats, no tren cough, temper was ok to, great gains, very lean and strengh increase is great also. I was worried about all the nasty sides i kept hearing about but everyone os different! oh but ed injections are a pain! but you do get use to them, then crave them....lol I do tend to tolerate s/e of anabolics quite well though, no hint of gyno, no acne, hair loss, libido problems etc... although it does take me a while to recover post cycle and i sweat alot when hot so its not all great lol good luck in your cycle, you'll love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytom777 View Post
    I'm into 5th week of tren A was on 50ed but bumped to 75ed as s/e were well tolerated, hardly any sweats, no tren cough, temper was ok to, great gains, very lean and strengh increase is great also. I was worried about all the nasty sides i kept hearing about but everyone os different! oh but ed injections are a pain! but you do get use to them, then crave them....lol I do tend to tolerate s/e of anabolics quite well though, no hint of gyno, no acne, hair loss, libido problems etc... although it does take me a while to recover post cycle and i sweat alot when hot so its not all great lol good luck in your cycle, you'll love it!
    Thanks for sharing your feedback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    I found Saw Palmetto product in the pharmacy and this brand contain 450 mg Saw Palmetto, is this too much? if yes, what is a reasonable dose?
    also, will it affect gains?

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    Bump, will Saw Palmetto affect gains?

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