alternative to AI's for bloating?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 04:01 PM

anything I could use other than Adex or aromasin or something like that for bloating purposes? I am hesitant to use them at this point because I have no gyno issues but I am bloating from the dbol I am using with my current test and deca cycle. I heard dandelion root is good for that maybe. Anyone have any opinions? Or would anything OTC be much less effective for bloating than adex at 0.25 eod?

**donberry427** · 04-02-2010, 04:21 PM

Do you consume any diary? ...Hows your sodium intake? ....Only thing i can think of is controling your diet...

..Also why dont you want to use an AI? you worried its going to hinder your gains?

**BJJ** · 04-02-2010, 04:24 PM

Diet in check at first.
Then, you can add mesterolone.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by donberry427

Do you consume any diary? ...Hows your sodium intake? ....Only thing i can think of is controling your diet...

..Also why dont you want to use an AI? you worried its going to hinder your gains?

I do not consume any dairy at all. My diet is excellent. Sodium intake is very low. I have yet to steer from my macros so far this cycle and havent had a cheat meal

Yes I am a little worried it might hinder gains. I know .25 is a low dose but I dunno. Would an AI be much better than an OTC supplement?

Originally Posted by BJJ

Diet in check at first.
Then, you can add mesterolone.

what is that and where can I get it?

**BJJ** · 04-02-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

I do not consume any dairy at all. My diet is excellent. Sodium intake is very low. I have yet to steer from my macros so far this cycle and havent had a cheat meal

Yes I am a little worried it might hinder gains. I know .25 is a low dose but I dunno. Would an AI be much better than an OTC supplement?

what is that and where can I get it?

Proviron

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Proviron

isnt that also an AI and can hinder gains?

**taiboxa** · 04-02-2010, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

isnt that also an AI and can hinder gains?

its a DHT and its good for you lol
honestly.. easiest way to decrease bloating is to use less compounds or lower amount OF compounds that aromatize

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

its a DHT and its good for you lol
honestly.. easiest way to decrease bloating is to use less compounds or lower amount OF compounds that aromatize

nah dude I'm not changing my cycle. The bloating isnt too bad, its just gotten worse these last two days. I am only close to two weeks in and my dosages are low (40mg dbol , 625 test, 400 deca )

dam proviron looks expensive. Are there any negatives to taking it? I know a little bit about it but not too much. I guess I'll start reading up on it finally

**taiboxa** · 04-02-2010, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

nah dude I'm not changing my cycle. The bloating isnt too bad, its just gotten worse these last two days. I am only close to two weeks in and my dosages are low (40mg dbol , 625 test, 400 deca )

dam proviron looks expensive. Are there any negatives to taking it? I know a little bit about it but not too much. I guess I'll start reading up on it finally

its oral mast.. and it is pricy..

whats your diet like? your sodium intake?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

its oral mast.. and it is pricy..

whats your diet like? your sodium intake?

I mentioned before that it is very good and sodium is very low. Maybe a tad carb heavy, which adds to the bloating I suppose. Macros are 296/371/108, 3,600 calories and I am 5'9 191lbs

have you ever used dandelion root?

**taiboxa** · 04-02-2010, 06:03 PM

higher carb intake = greater water retention .. since your body stores about a 4:1 ratio of water to glycogen

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

higher carb intake = greater water retention .. since your body stores about a 4:1 ratio of water to glycogen

do you think 370 is too high for carbs for someone my weight? I would say it probably is even up to 385 or so daily. Should I add more protein and decrease the carbs?

btw I read the profile on proviron , looks like it enhances the effectiveness of the gear I am taking. I think I will save it for a future cycle

**gixxerboy1** · 04-02-2010, 06:57 PM

how much proviron would you recomend?

**Tyler694** · 04-02-2010, 07:11 PM

I know someone who is taking 20mg / day of Proviron for bloating and it works for him.

**benf99** · 04-02-2010, 07:31 PM

Hey need a little help could someone reply to my post "need help with winstrol " by benf99 ....Thanks just need some advice...

**gymnerd** · 04-02-2010, 07:55 PM

Just roll with the bloat bro. You are bulking right? Its just water that will come right off as soon as you drop the compounds.

This is what I was saying about bloating though everyone says its all diet, its not its a big part of it but how will diet control how much estrogen is in your body, it cant an AI will though.

**Tyler694** · 04-02-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by benf99

Hey need a little help could someone reply to my post "need help with winstrol" by benf99 ....Thanks just need some advice...

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 04-02-2010, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Just roll with the bloat bro. You are bulking right? Its just water that will come right off as soon as you drop the compounds.

This is what I was saying about bloating though everyone says its all diet, its not its a big part of it but how will diet control how much estrogen is in your body, it cant an AI will though.

ehhh going to miami in two weekends. gonna be shirtless this weekend (though no one important will see me). Ill still be cycling throughout june too when its really hot. I kind of dont want the bloat during those times. I might try dandelion root first and then just do adex if I really have to