Cycle Help

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 02:25 PM

Hey, I'm new to steroids , and I'm going on my first cycle this upcoming week.
Pituitary Growth Hormone combined with D-Anabol, Deca 200, and Clen . I was curious as how i should go about doing this. I ordered the steroids online, and i bought what is called Growth Hormone Extreme Stack, which has all the previous, im not sure if it will come with specific directions in taking it, but i believe its only a 1 month supply. It came with a free 1 month supply of Pituitary Growth Hormone, so my questions are as followed:
If there are no specific instructions, should i simply take all these products every day for the entire month?
After the month supply of this stack runs out, should i continue with the extra month of Pituitary Growth Hormone or should i take a month off, then followed by another month of this?
What kind of results could i possibly by expecting?
I'm 6'0 185lbs around 15 or 16% body fat.

**Ernst** · 05-09-2010, 02:32 PM

Bought from the banner above I take it? Those are supplements, not steroids .

**forte** · 05-09-2010, 02:34 PM

how old are you?

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst

Bought from the banner above I take it? Those are supplements, not steroids.

Okay, well, will i still expect to see results from this?

**Ernst** · 05-09-2010, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by jkjk8991

Okay, well, will i still expect to see results from this?

Do your part with diet and training and you'll see results. As for the quality or effectiveness of the supplements, I have no idea as I have never used them.

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst

Do your part with diet and training and you'll see results. As for the quality or effectiveness of the supplements, I have no idea as I have never used them.

Okay, i exercise quite a bit, as for diet, should i be overreating or undereating with this? I want to put on lean muscle, but also reduce fat, i know tihs is impossible in general circumstances because one requries a calorie deficit and the other a calorie surplus. Would these supplements change this in any way?

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 03:04 PM

Okay, well, i ordered those supplements, which im begining to worry was a waste of money. My goal in reality is to lose around 15 pounds of fat, and gain around 15 pounds of muscle in a somewhat quick manner. Can anyone confirm that these supplements will help do this? I am really hoping to be done with this by around september, im not looking for being this huge mass, i would like a bit more muscle, and a lot more definition. Here's where i am at the moment, i would like a six pack, and general definition.

**Matt** · 05-09-2010, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by jkjk8991

Okay, well, i ordered those supplements, which im begining to worry was a waste of money. My goal in reality is to lose around 15 pounds of fat, and gain around 15 pounds of muscle in a somewhat quick manner. Can anyone confirm that these supplements will help do this? If not, how do i got about getting actual steroids? I am really hoping to be done with this by around september, im not looking for being this huge mass, i would like a bit more muscle, and a lot more definition. Here's where i am at the moment, i would like a six pack, and general definition.

I would start by cleaning that room up, ive never seen such a mess....

**Ernst** · 05-09-2010, 03:11 PM

You may not ask about how to procure steroids , it is against the rules. Edit your post. Be aware you just raised a flag asking for every scammer to rip you off.

**Ernst** · 05-09-2010, 03:15 PM

For training I'd keep a simple workout split and combine it with cardio. Get a decent diet nailed down. I see no reason you wouldn't see totally decent results by September (exchanging fat for muscle) with that!

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 03:59 PM

Okay, well i cancelled my order, for these products seem like scams, and a waste of money. My question now is, what would be the effect of an 8 week cycle, first four weeks simply testosterone , and the last four adding in winny. Would this possibly help me towards my goal of gaining 15 pounds of muscle, and losing 15 pounds of fat?

**forte** · 05-09-2010, 04:36 PM

second time: how old are you?
seems to me that you don't know anything about aas. follow ernsthatangst advise and have your diet straight, spend some quality time in the gym(seeing you picture you really need that) and in the same time read the "educational threads" at the top of this forum. educate your self b4 anything and you'll thank as later.
good luck!

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by forte

second time: how old are you?
seems to me that you don't know anything about aas. follow ernsthatangst advise and have your diet straight, spend some quality time in the gym(seeing you picture you really need that) and in the same time read the "educational threads" at the top of this forum. educate your self b4 anything and you'll thank as later.
good luck!

I'm 19, and i've stopped growing. I am on a diet, and i have spent quality time in a gym, i run a 22 minute 5k, and am doing a sprint triathalon, as well as being able to bench 250. I know this isnt a lot compared to others, but i know how to work out, I didnt know about diet much until recently, this was a downfall. I used to be very overweight, and i do have some loose skin which i detest, i am reading up on and educating myself, i'm sorry for not doing this before. The painfully slow results is what is driving me to doing a cycle of steroids , i would just like results quick. So i'm asking if adding winstrol to the last 4 weeks of an eight week cycle is a good idea? My main goal is definition, but i really do want to add on a bit of muscle.

**forte** · 05-09-2010, 06:29 PM

you are to young bro. the thing is that at that age your body have the ability to produce some good stuff naturally. imo you don't need aas to lose some fat and add some decent lean mass. your natural testosterone is probably at max, might as well take advantage of it. i start lifting when i was 17 and i had my first cycle in my early 30's.

**jkjk8991** · 05-09-2010, 06:34 PM

the thing is i'm just getting impatient, i know this just means im looking for an easier way out for results. I only want to do one cycle simply to get my body fat down and put on some lean muscle in the process, to basically get the body i've always wanted. After this one cycle, i'm planning on doing things without steroids the natural way.