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    NickM5 is offline New Member
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    1st cycle - Just a little advice

    Hello everyone,

    first of all sorry if i take your time and thank you for reading this.

    Im 29, 190cm tall, 97kgr. I trained 2 years, quit for 1 and then restarted for 1 year now.

    Im at around 105 - 110kgr bench press, I train 5 times a week and i'm only using a 90% isolated protein.

    Thinking to start a mild cycle (as mild as it can be). I have to say i'm not a bodybuilder and i dont want to become one. I also dont want huge sides so I chose to run an oral cycle only (no flaming for that please I only need a small advice)

    Here is what I'm thinking about:

    week1: Turinabol 30mg ED
    week2: Turinabol 40mg ED, Anavar 30mg ED
    week3: Turinabol 50mg ED, Anavar 30mg ED
    Week4: Turinabol 50mg ED, Anavar 30mg ED
    Week5: Anavar 40 mg ED
    Week6: Anavar 30mg ED

    Turinabol effects are actually stopping at 4th week or mid 5th so pointless to run it more than that. Ill keep the var as low as possible to avoid the libido issues.

    PCT: Nolvadex 40/30/20/20 Week7 to week10

    Together with the above: 6000mg tribullus Week2 to Week10, Vitamin C 1000mg Week2 to Week 10, Vitamin E ED, Liver protectors ED, 200gr isolated protein ED, NO pre work, omega 3 ED, Flax seed oil ED.

    Ill keep my diet at around 3000 - 3250 kcal with low to mid carbs and high protein.

    My goal: Get some lean mass, get leaner in general. No problem if i keep the half gains.

    Questions: 1) libido and testicles situation will be bad? If yes anything to add? 2) PCT seems fine? Do I need Clomid or HCG ?

    Welcome to comment anything you see bad or stupid

    Thank you in advance

    N

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    Tyler694 is offline Associate Member
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    Yes. Your natural test will be shut down. 30mg of anavar won't yield much results, if any at all.. 30-40mg of tbol is a pretty low dosage too.

    Why have you not included any test? You seem to want to lean or cut up. Test, in addition to proper diet and cardio, would do much better at this than your current.. err.. plan.

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    Angerfist is offline New Member
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    Is this your first cycle? Wouldn't you rather want to start off with something less taxing if that is the case? Like maybe a 10-12 week cycle of Test E w/ PCT, and if you're feeling frisky, throw in Dianabol /Turinabol for the first 4 weeks to kick start your cycle. I wouldn't go anything more than that.

    I'm very new to this world, but from what I have read you probably want Test E in your stack since that's giving you a lot of your gains. Any reason you chose not to use it?

    Not trying to flame, just my two cents and I'm still learning. Feel free to enlighten me if I seem dulled on some areas.


    -Anger

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    NickM5 is offline New Member
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    No problem to throw test in. Been around for a while and discussed about this certain cycle with some people who actually had results. Not the huge and amazing that most of you want but fair enough for what they wanted. They even kept the gains after.

    The only part that bothered me is the PCT and the natural test recovery

    I won't go more than that for turinabol not completely destroy my ldl/hdl levels. As for var yes its fairly low, you think 40mg would do enough difference from the 30mg comparing with the more sides and the risk of the libido?

    thanks for all the answers till now, would appreciate also some answers to my questions if anybody has the will to do it.

    N

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    Tyler694 is offline Associate Member
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    From my experience, var is worse on the lipid levels. Especially HDL.

    If I were you I would pick one or the other oral. Personally I would go with tbol. As far as the libido issues, I have ran var as high as 80-100mg ED and I never have libido issues as long as I am running test.

    PCT looks pretty good. I like to run clomid and nolva, but yours does look pretty good.

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    NickM5 is offline New Member
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    Thanks a lot for the answers.

    I might give a 10mg up on var for the whole cycle after all.

    Ill do this cycle with weekly blood tests and analytic charts so after i finish if anybody wants some info i can post.

    N

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    thisbmine is offline Banned
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    Keep us posted. We're not gonna remember you in 3 months

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