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    do you think sustanon270 is good 4 1st cyc..

    iam getting mixed reviews about this sht...a trainer at my gym says sustanon has the highest gyno rate... he is telling me i should ween my self off it...this sat will be my 3rd week and i have only gained about 6lbs of real weight...mind he also said sustanon is not the right thing to take for ur very frist cycle...he think maybe test simp or something like that iam trying to get to 200lbs i only weight 183 now and that is the resson i got this sht cuz it says the gain are great....iam takeing 540mg now...he say i should take it down to 400 than 270 and then quit....people have been saying that 3rd week is when iam going to see a big gain....i just need sum input on this thank you....he also belive that since i got it off the internet he doesnt think it real...also since nobody has even heard of sus 270

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    sust is acceptable for a first cycle, assuming the person is ready to cycle. as to it having a higher gyno rate, I'd love to hear his explanation.

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    Yuor trainer doesnt know anything. And even if you were going to come of you dont taper. Tell him to stick to training 40 year old women

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    lol...so u think i should keep running it??and do u think 540mg is a little high should i take it down to 400mg

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    what do u mean ready for a cycle??? what do u mean dedicated..at the gym?? ihave been going for 4years 5 days a week

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    so do u think test sip is not a good idea...stick wit the sus

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    what do u mean ready for a cycle??? what do u mean dedicated..at the gym?? ihave been going for 4years 5 days a week
    personally I think people should try to reach or at least approach their genetic potential before cycling, but that seldom happens. what is your body fat%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    so do u think test sip is not a good idea...stick wit the sus
    the only difference between tests are the ester which is the time release. It doesnt matter.

    What are your stats? Thats what he meant by if your ready.

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    age?28
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    weight 183
    body 12%

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    and iam pretty sure i have reached my genetic po...iam 28 been working out for 4 years and cant get pass 185lbs i hope this will do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    and iam pretty sure i have reached my genetic po...iam 28 been working out for 4 years and cant get pass 185lbs i hope this will do it
    your diet is probably your problem. Your not at 12%

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    ok maybe 16%iam not real sure...do think i should try to diet frist befor i start this cycle

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    cause i already started it...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    ok maybe 16%iam not real sure...do think i should try to diet frist befor i start this cycle
    yes i would learn how to eat correctly first.

    You would get the most out of a cycle when you are dieting correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    cause i already started it...lol
    i read this thing on arnold schwarzenegger saying that they used to pyramid their test.. well this does nothing.. AS FAR AS I KNOW you dont need to taper off.. that is old technology... the ester and the half life are the same no matter what.. so just make sure you have a pct of clomid and nolva in order before stopping...

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    I taper on and off, helps greatly with acne issues.

    Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
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    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty boy View Post
    and iam pretty sure i have reached my genetic po...
    LoL...No you haven't. Far from to be honest.

    Sust is fine first cycle. 540mg/week is fine. Your trainer is a noob.

    Clean up your diet.

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