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    excess91 is offline New Member
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    Comments and tips from vets needed

    I am new to aas but I am an experienced lifter. I really need any imput from vets/mods on how to get the most out of my cycle. I plan on running it 12 weeks with clomid and nolva for pct. Comments tips questions and appreciated.

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    6'0 tall and right now 228 my lowest was 2 years ago I got to 168 I am naturally around 190. yes thats 60 lbs in 2 years.
    So I started my first cycle about 3 weeks ago I started with dbol 20mg 2 times a day total 40 mg/day along with 150 mg of prop EOD and 250 mg eq every third day.
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    Now I bumped it to prop 175ml eod(600mg week) with deca and eq 250mg every third day(~600mg week). I stopped the dbol bc I didnt feel like it was contributing to anything but water gain. I started at ~210lbs 8%bf(hydrostatic tank)(31in waist cold 28' sucked in) now I am at 228. My diet is as follows...wake up 40gram shake with 1 cup dry oats mixed in then an hour later another cup oats with granola with 9 egg whites and 2 yolks. 1 pm high protein lunch, 2 protein bars throughout the day and around 8 another large meal and a shake before bed. Typically this adds up to 5-6k calories and at least 250gram protein.

    I work out a minimum of 5 days a week chest/arms 2 times and back 2 times and legs,traps,shoulders once.
    Last edited by excess91; 06-09-2010 at 09:00 PM. Reason: ml to mg incorrect unit

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    Those are some high doses for a first cycle. And im assuming you meant milligrams where you wrote milliliters

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    Kind of hard to make it through your post with accuracy, but it looks like you're taking Prop/Deca /EQ and just quit the Dbol . Most of the weight has probably come from the Dbol although the prop is a quick esther. It's advised your first cycle be one compound....TEST. I would drop the EQ now as most have experienced it doesn't do much and you already have a 19nor compound with the deca. Dropping the Dbol was a good idea. The deca has not kicked in yet but will soon. You've been experiencing the test and dbol for the most part. I would lower the Deca dose to the equivalent of approx 400 per week and call the first 3 weeks front loading (although unintentional). Leave the prop at approx 600 per week. Kinda high, but you're 228 now.

    Visit the diet section and read this stickie:

    So you wanna learn how to Diet?

    How old are you???

    What do you have lined up for PCT??? Exact protocol....

    As you can see, you may get slammed because you should have had all of this worked out BEFORE you ever considered using AAS. Why would anyone inject any substance into their body without knowing what it will do and how to counteract negative side effects....?
    Last edited by Bossman; 06-09-2010 at 05:57 PM.

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    I appreciate you response. I"ll cut the eg. For pct I was planning on running 25mg nolva and 50 mg clomid for 5 weeks. I am 22. I realize that I may be flamed however my goal is to receive information and advice.

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