need expert help on cycle

**e cruz** · 02-06-2003, 10:04 PM

need expert help on cycle

hay fellas have just a few questions iv'e been training for about 2 years im 23 5'8" 139pds about 7-9%bf ive hit before but not on a consitant basis my connect moved and we lost contact. im more than motivated i love the sport. my Question is i was thinking of starting off with deca first 200mg then gradually 400mg per wk for 6 weeks and or stack sust250 1xwk or primo 1oomg 1xwk and maybe some clen not sure on that my goal is to gain about 10-15pds or more and keep a good amount. and also shound i take anti estr with this cycle or is it safe not to please help any suggestions

**nj_** · 02-06-2003, 10:06 PM

At 5'8 139lbs you need to just eat more to gain weight. Post your diet so we can help you with it.

**sd11** · 02-06-2003, 10:08 PM

At 139 lbs you could easily gain 10-15 lbs naturally with a good bulking diet. IMO I would hold off on the cycle until I gain some more weight naturally and do some more research the cycle ideas you have proposed aren't so good.

**Madmax** · 02-06-2003, 10:14 PM

i forgot his about his weight....at 139 lbs it's your diet bro..you need to start eating like a champ...you may be over training also..and not getting enough protien...Madmax..

**monstercojones** · 02-06-2003, 10:15 PM

i've been there man, exactly where you are... eat more protein and increase calories- and post up your workouts, you could be overtraining...

**e cruz** · 02-07-2003, 01:12 PM

Wow there is hope in the world. thanks guys for your info. ok so here is my diet/training routine I started at 155 my goal was to lose the tire I had so I started of with your basic low carb high protien diet to lower my bd fat. now im about 140-143 and this is my diet for about 2 months. 1 rtd in Morning my multi vitamin once a week vitamin c. Noon 2 egg wh some broccoli/veggies 3:30 1 chicken breast/veggies(brocc,cucum,zucchi,snopeas,caroots,corn,on ion,peppers,celery) which ever one's I make then I train. after i take 3 tbl twin lab aminofuel then I have a protien shake 35gm vitamin world whey 16oz water half bannana some times oat meal 2 ice blend. 8:30pm 3-4oz red meat or 85/15 ground meat or fish boiled rice or salad no dressing veggies
10:00 rice cake or tbl sp peanut butter or oatmeal or shredded wheat
all my food is bland no salt just pepper some garlic oregano maybe mushrooms. i drink about 3/4 gallon water daily and about a cup or two of fat free milk. I train 5-6 days a week here is a basic week for me monday I train my Chest I like to hit the incline and flat mostly . then I hit my tris kickbacks one & two arm dum ext and dips quick set for traps. Tuesday bis/back curls bar and dum. back/lats i do dum & bent bar rows.Wednesday sholders/forearm for shoulders i do dum presses front raises seated one arm dum lats. forearms hammer curls wrist curls. Thursday repeat i throw in ab routines and some shrugs for my traps. I keep a workout log evey day i take about one two days of max but now i find my self just a little bigger thats why i wanted to see if maybe some A/S would work I figured i would just up my diet in conjunction with my cycle for max gains well any way here's my life. If to long please let me know (some how i figued that) almost forgot I do about 30 min of areo a day

**e cruz** · 02-07-2003, 01:13 PM

please help me out i want to grow

**sd11** · 02-07-2003, 02:57 PM

The problem like we all thought is your diet bro. Your calorie intake is super low do some searches on the board for bulking diets. As for your training:
1. Why don't you train legs!
2. Your overtraining, there is no need for you to hit each bodypart more than once a week
3. Stick to compound movements...i.e.(bench,military,squats,deadlifts)
I think you would be better suited training 4 days a week max, I would reccomend something like:
mon - chest/abs
tues - back
wed - off
thurs - legs/abs
fri - shoulders/arms
sat - off
sun - off
Good luck!