24 week cycle, thoughts?0

**thenextcutler** · 07-17-2010, 11:02 PM

Hey guys. Just finished a 12 weeker of test 350-450 mg a week (dose increased halfway). What's this boards take on 24 week cycles and ability to recover. I wanna do 12 more weeks and throw in 400 deca .

I know short is ideal but I am going to be a pro BB one day and i will need to do things to my body an average gym goer should never do. I've heard of 24 week cycles followed by full recovery, just looking for your guys' .02c

**stevey_6t9** · 07-17-2010, 11:19 PM

you going to be a pro?

pics?

**thenextcutler** · 07-17-2010, 11:27 PM

One day I will, I'd post current pics but I'm at work. If you dig in my history you can find natty pics

**thenextcutler** · 07-17-2010, 11:32 PM

And of course by "one day" I mean 5-10 years or whatever it takes

**marcus300** · 07-18-2010, 02:35 AM

Your 22yrs old just out of your first cycle aren't you?

Wasnt you told not to cycle at your age? are you not bothered about low test for life?

Why on earth would you want to do a 24 wk cycle at your age, i hope your packing some serious stats and will be turning pro in the next couple of years?

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your 22yrs old just out of your first cycle aren't you?

Wasnt you told not to cycle at your age? are you not bothered about low test for life?

Why on earth would you want to do a 24 wk cycle at your age, i hope your packing some serious stats and will be turning pro in the next couple of years?

yur exactly right, it's technically my second cycle but the first was useless so I don't really count it.

As for stats well I'm 6' 220 lbs with a 6 pack (just sayin that to show body fat is low) this is after just over two years of bodybuilding. I went from 185 to 205 in the first year NATURALLY, had bf% test to be 9%. And before that I had never seen the inside of a gym. Did one cycle of test at a measly 400 mgs/wk (average) and bang, 220 with no change in fat. If I cycle more seriously and eventually use hgh and igf1 could I be pro one day? I think so. My former ifbb trainer thinks so. So does my provincial champion friend.

I know 24 wk cycles, hgh, igf1 shouldn't be taken by everyone, but let's face it, all the pros do it and if I wanna compete I'm gonna have to as well. Now I've only taken test. Next time ill do test/deca . Time after that I'll try another thing. Slowly expose myself to different compounds. I can't even imagine what I'll look like if I take deca, much less igf1 and hgh. I figure 5 years before I do well at nationals but if I progress as fast as I think I might t could be sooner.

Back to my question tho. Which is more efficient. Two 12's or one 24?

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 03:01 AM

As for low test, let's face it. If I want to go pro I will eventually be on test permanently anyways. Maybe I should grow some balls and start now. But, just in case, for some odd reason something comes up andy priorities shift, I want to be able to go off and just be a recreational user

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 03:05 AM

And no I can't ask my trainer or friend this question cuz they are already telling me to stay on all year round

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 03:05 AM

So one 24 or 2 12's? Which gets me bigger faster?

**gym_junki** · 07-18-2010, 08:51 AM

24 will get u biger faster u come off strugle to recover and uv lost 80 pecent of what uv gained. 12 and recover than anther 12 u will recover alot quiker and keep heaps of ur hard work. being 22 and saying to ur self who cares if i get put on trt is wrong low tests and injecting all year round for heaps of years isnt worth it at 22 even 26, trust me mate im only older than u by 1 year i thought like that at one stage but it was wrong. if u try and jump the ladder u might fall and not get back up so do it right while u can.

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 09:03 AM

You make a good point, but can anyone speak to how long you can stay on cycle before the gains plateu and it lose the bang for your buck. I have a hard time telling within myself when the gains slow down, it's only if I were to look back over a few weeks time and see no improvement.

**thenextcutler** · 07-18-2010, 09:03 AM

It's probably different or everyone I guess

**AlphaGenetics** · 07-18-2010, 09:40 AM

I would go 12 on then a couple week cruz then 12 more. Kinda like slingshot training.

**gym_junki** · 07-18-2010, 09:50 AM

usually week 8 to 10 i stort of hit a wall gains slow down basically increse the dose or change the ester if ur gona run a long cycle or drop the dose and the food intake for two weeks than raise it back up again to what it was. mate i wouldnt go more than 16 weeks on a cycle maybe 18 ur pushing it and i hope u have some hcg if u decide to run it long. good luck