D-bol

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 01:07 PM

Im going to take d-bol with my next cycle. curious how many mg ed i should take and how long should i take it with my Deca 300 and Test 400. i was also curious if i should up my dosage of deca test because i have recently finished my last cycle deca test 1cc every 7th day. so should i goto deca 1.5cc and keep the test at 1cc. i will also be loading with nolvadex pills 20mg ed for one week the continue during my cycle cause i know what i am doing i kind of a gyno cycle and i want to keep that at bay much as possible. any advice would be much apreciated.

Thanx all

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 01:15 PM

also should i switch to Tren or Eq just to switch it up for my body?

**nikolai14** · 07-19-2010, 03:32 PM

stats? ill start by saying that taking more deca than test is probably not a real good idea

**Berserker88** · 07-19-2010, 04:33 PM

First cycle I did 40mg dbol /day and got great results. No sides either

**Matt** · 07-19-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by nikolai14

stats? ill start by saying that taking more deca than test is probably not a real good idea

I dont understand why you think its a bad idea to run more deca than test??

Maybe you can enlighten us??

**Ashop** · 07-19-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

Im going to take d-bol with my next cycle. curious how many mg ed i should take and how long should i take it with my Deca 300 and Test 400. i was also curious if i should up my dosage of deca test because i have recently finished my last cycle deca test 1cc every 7th day. so should i goto deca 1.5cc and keep the test at 1cc. i will also be loading with nolvadex pills 20mg ed for one week the continue during my cycle cause i know what i am doing i kind of a gyno cycle and i want to keep that at bay much as possible. any advice would be much apreciated.

Thanx all

We have always used the rule of thumb of at least 2mg per pound of bodyweight for DECA with nice success.

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 08:09 PM

ok so everybody except nikolai14 do you think i should try some tren for my next cycle with my deca and test 400 d-bol 25 mg 1 ed or should i switch the test 4 for test 250 and when do you think it would be a good time to incorporate the tren if can be taken

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by nikolai14

stats? ill start by saying that taking more deca than test is probably not a real good idea

inaccurate

**bjohnson1968** · 07-19-2010, 08:14 PM

what are your stats Bro

age
hgt
wgt
bf%
cycle exp
yrs training

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 08:14 PM

how many cycles have you done OP? have you done deca b4?

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 08:45 PM

27, 190 lb bf 10-15% 10yrs have done 3 cycles before always have done deca 300 test 400 and have incorparated d-bol once before with my second cycle i have gotten great results i i have done my first 2 cycles about 6 yrs ago just finshed my last cycle about 5 weeks ago wanted to try something different after my 14 weeks off. so i wanted to try some tren deca test d-bol i have really increesed my calorie intake to about 5-6.5 thousand calories ed i work out like a savage not new to the game.

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 08:50 PM

squat 505
bench 375
deadlift 480
curl 65's
shoulder press 115 dumbells 4 sets of 8
i feel thats pretty good for my size but i want to incress my body weight to 215 lb solid lean benching 500 i also eat 10 egg every morning with 1 chicken brest proten shake animalpak and lots of other lean protean meals throughout the day steak oyster crab shrip pasta turkey so i feel my diet and workout are ready for anything the only i have the gap between my cycles is becaus of my work scedual i did not have as much free time but no i do so i have been hitting the gym hard for past 2 years hard to get my self rdy for the good stuff

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 08:58 PM

yep, nothing wrong with those lifts mate. try tren a instead of deca , with your test, you should find a great kick of it, i did my 1st run @ 350mg pw alongside 600mg test prop/e and got great results, just have caber or the likes at hand for any flare ups. tbh i doubt you'll need any dbol , tren is powerful stuff

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 09:09 PM

can you take deca and tren togather?

**nikolai14** · 07-19-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by 007

I dont understand why you think its a bad idea to run more deca than test??

Maybe you can enlighten us??

well, perhaps im wrong as im not extremely familiar with deca.. i assumed such because of deca being known for libido and erection problems and my common sense says that you would want at least as much, if not more mgs of test to counteract that as test does the opposite..if i am wrong then i apologize to the o.p for giving advise based on an assumption and ive learned something new today

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

can you take deca and tren togather?

you can but its not advisable and best left to the more experienced, i havent done it myself but thts what i was advised. you really dont need to, trust me, you'll love tren if you dont get bad sides

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by nikolai14

well, perhaps im wrong as im not extremely familiar with deca.. i assumed such because of deca being known for libido and erection problems and my common sense says that you would want at least as much, if not more mgs of test to counteract that as test does the opposite..if i am wrong then i apologize to the o.p for giving advise based on an assumption and ive learned something new today

yeah, doesnt matter about deca being run higher, you still have an above natural amount of test being supplemented

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 09:59 PM

ok so i am going to go with deca 300 test 400 and and the dbol going to go 12 weeks long 4 weeks with the dbol kick start my cycle try tren my next cycle with test 250. not sure when i should start my nolva i have 50 tabs nips usaly get sore around week 6 for me and not sure how long to load d-bol 25mg ed for 1 week then 50mg ed am/pm for 3 week. hat do you think

**dec11** · 07-19-2010, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

ok so i am going to go with deca 300 test 400 and and the dbol going to go 12 weeks long 4 weeks with the dbol kick start my cycle try tren my next cycle with test 250. not sure when i should start my nolva i have 50 tabs nips usaly get sore around week 6 for me and not sure how long to load d-bol 25mg ed for 1 week then 50mg ed am/pm for 3 week. hat do you think

i'd go for 40mg from the off with the dbol . ive done all the way up to 60mg pd and tbh 40mg is more than enough for anyone, anymore than that and sides start to get annoying. ive a mate who runs at 20mg pd and gets gr8 results from it. good luck

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 10:24 PM

well my tabs are 25's so i think ill do that for two weeks see how i do then maybe bump to 50 mg ed last two weeks

**Knockout_Power** · 07-19-2010, 10:41 PM

2nd cycle, keep it simple... do not run tren yet, you are not ready. Test and dbol will still give you great results on a 2nd cycle, no need to start stacking 3 or 4 compounds and an oral. I ran test only with no orals and Im not doing that bad.

**zabster151** · 07-19-2010, 10:53 PM

when should i take my deca every 7th day or 5th and test every six days or should i do both like always every 7th day

**Knockout_Power** · 07-19-2010, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

when should i take my deca every 7th day or 5th and test every six days or should i do both like always every 7th day

keep blood levels stable, pin each twice a week every 3.5 days.

**dec11** · 07-20-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

2nd cycle, keep it simple... do not run tren yet, you are not ready. Test and dbol will still give you great results on a 2nd cycle, no need to start stacking 3 or 4 compounds and an oral. I ran test only with no orals and Im not doing that bad.

its his 4th cycle mate

**Knockout_Power** · 07-20-2010, 09:34 AM

my bad... but with his desire to pin once a week, dont think Tren is a good idea either way

**zabster151** · 07-20-2010, 09:38 AM

i dont mind shooting allot througouht my cycle i like it. lol is every 3.5 days to close for deca test

**zabster151** · 07-20-2010, 01:15 PM

should i start with 25mg d-dol or 50 mg ed or ramp

**Knockout_Power** · 07-20-2010, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

i dont mind shooting allot througouht my cycle i like it. lol is every 3.5 days to close for deca test

no, this is optimal injection times for these compounds, just split your weekly dose in half...

Originally Posted by zabster151

should i start with 25mg d-dol or 50 mg ed or ramp

25mg ED is lots, maybe go to 30... 50 is a bit much... I know people that run that much but you already have deca in there, let those injectables do some work and let your liver do less. And no, dont ramp the dbol ... stable blood levels are essential

**zabster151** · 07-20-2010, 02:52 PM

since this will be my fourth cycle and its wright after my last cycle 14 weeks off in the making. should i up my dosage to 1.5cc deca and 1.5 test 400 my weight is 190 and i know the whole 2mg per lb for me would be 380 mg per week but i was not sure if my body has gotten used to the 1 cc dosage i have been take for 10 weeks of both. but i will also runniing the d-bol so not sure?

**Knockout_Power** · 07-20-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by zabster151

since this will be my fourth cycle and its wright after my last cycle 14 weeks off in the making. should i up my dosage to 1.5cc deca and 1.5 test 400 my weight is 190 and i know the whole 2mg per lb for me would be 380 mg per week but i was not sure if my body has gotten used to the 1 cc dosage i have been take for 10 weeks of both. but i will also runniing the d-bol so not sure?

if you are running Deca 300 and test 400 I think 1.5CC of each per week would be a great cycle. 450 Deca and 600 test per week are nice reasonable numbers and should get you some nice gains.

**Knockout_Power** · 07-20-2010, 03:32 PM

to give you an example, Im on my 4th cycle and it looks like this...

Sust @ 600/wk
Tren E @ 450/wk
NPP @ 450/wk

no orals, fairly low doses and my avi is my current pic as of last week.

**zabster151** · 07-20-2010, 04:37 PM

nice i think i am going to do
Deca @450/wk 12 weeks
Test400@600mg/wk 13 weeks
D-bol @25mg/ed wk 1-4
winstrol @50mg/ed starting wk 8-14
HCG 1cc starting week 15 volva the whole time 25mg ed

**dec11** · 07-20-2010, 04:45 PM

looks good to mate, good luck

**zabster151** · 07-20-2010, 05:24 PM

after this cycle i am going to try Eq with test 400 then after that ill try tren and test 250 the future looks bright lol

**baseline_9** · 07-21-2010, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

to give you an example, Im on my 4th cycle and it looks like this...

Sust @ 600/wk
Tren E @ 450/wk
NPP @ 450/wk

no orals, fairly low doses and my avi is my current pic as of last week.

how long are you running this cycle for, are you posting up a log?

why not run tren A, u must be shooting the sust and NPP ED or EOD rite?

Less sides from the Tren E?