Best drug for ED

**kenny1022** · 07-25-2010, 06:59 AM

Bros,

I just started dating this girl and the fear of not getting an erection while getting frisky is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm on 500 mg of Enanth EW and 9 weeks into the cycle.

What do you recommend - cialis, viagra or anything else for erectile dysfunction?

Thanks!!!

Ken

**Dont wanna be old** · 07-25-2010, 07:10 AM

Do you know there's a problem , or worried about performance ?
Viagra and Cialis are well known for successful function .

**kenny1022** · 07-25-2010, 07:22 AM

Which one would you recommend - viagra or cialis? Thanks.

**428scj** · 07-25-2010, 07:46 AM

Viagra lasts about 5 hours or so and takes about 30 minutes to kick in. Cialis can last up to 36 hours and takes about 1 hour to kick in. If you want a good repeat performance for a day and a half, go the Cialis route. I keep both on hand for the different occasions.

***D7M*** · 07-25-2010, 07:48 AM

I prefer cia myself.

But I'm still interested in Don't wanna be Old's question: is this preemptive? or has there been issue already?

Shouldn't really be any problems with that amount of test in your system.

**kenny1022** · 07-25-2010, 08:24 AM

It's an issue. I noticed my erections aren't as full as before test (sorry for the TMI)...

**Jfew44** · 07-25-2010, 08:49 AM

And you're on 500mgs/week? Have you noticed any other sides? Itchy nipples, excess water retention, ect?

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-25-2010, 09:01 AM

Cialis. OTC I'd opt for trib, yohimbe maca, zma, horny goat weed, ect. At that amount, the libido should be in check. Assuming your source is legit.

**Nicotine** · 07-25-2010, 11:22 AM

i never had the NEED for cialis, but it is a lot of fun for extended periods of banging...worked better for me than viagara

**Times Roman** · 07-25-2010, 11:39 AM

Best thing to take?

I recommend Pvssy Juice, mate!

(it also grows hair... notice the beard?)

**Bonaparte** · 07-26-2010, 05:14 AM

Testosterone should increase your libido, assuming that estrogen is kept within normal parameters. Are you bloating? I would try adding 12.5mg of Aromasin everyday and see if that helps.

**Mr.Rose** · 07-26-2010, 05:58 AM

Cialis x 1,000,000,000

Viagra needs to be timed before sex. With cialis, take it, and you don't have to worry about when to have sex, your free for 36+ hours, any time, all the time.

I run it ED to EOD, I don't have erectile dysfunction, but it keeps me hard for 3+ hours when i need it, which is most of the time.

**BennyLom** · 07-26-2010, 06:10 AM

Viagra and no question about it. Cialis gives me a hardon, sure, but Viagra gives me a really hard hardon

**NMacFar** · 07-26-2010, 06:42 AM

I'm sorry, but at 500mg of test a week I can't keep my dick down long enough to worry about getting another hard on. Something just doesn't sound right to me.

**simonq10** · 07-26-2010, 07:42 AM

I would just increase the Test by a half a cc to start, but hey that's just me. If it's good gear then it will not only give good erections, but climax should be no issue either.
Option 2 would be to get a hotter chick, which also works good lmao

**toothache** · 07-26-2010, 07:45 AM

Varden, cialis, and viagra all work well for me. Cialis does last for a couple of days though.

**Jack23** · 07-26-2010, 08:23 AM

The best drug is porn.Watch with your girl friend and see what happens

**SuperBird** · 07-26-2010, 09:32 AM

im your perfect case study. i came off my last fina four months ago and still experience the softy syndrome. ive done my share of fina with no pct and now my internal chemical system is all wacked. i have a shelf of viagra, cialis and levitra. two weeks ago i was experiencing the firmest wood yet in a year and still not steel. but now i went back to tren ace/ test enanthe 250 five days ago and damned if today i went from mandingo to no-dingo. my girl came over at 11am, and no shit, we had sex from 1130 until 6pm resting for a half hour here and there. a solid day of junglelove. but even though i took 50 mg of viagra, it didnt do shit. my wood would die out after three minutes or so. but if i took a ten minute break i could find some wood again for another few minutes, it went that way all day. and i got robbed on my last pop, i just had to give up.

and ive been loading testosterone e2d for months so im full of test. and still no steel or lasting wood. so loading testosterone is not a fix if you have issues. thanks fina. we're gonna do it again tomorrow so i'll up my viagra to 100 mgs, and see what happens. if that dont work, trash the viagra and move on to my cialis, and so forth to the levitra. also did you know?...... you cant overdose on viagra, it just doesnt do you any better, after 100mgs the results are all the same. read the paper that comes with it. it explains that 200mgs were given in the tests to subjects and experienced the same side effects as the average 10 percent of the general prescription of 100mg who experienced any side effects at all. the 4 hour painful erection bullshit is just a load of advertising crap.

so......... im waiting on my ipt141 and prami from ARR. i desperately hope this stuff works. at least in some degree if i use it all together.

i can say i have experience with both cialis and viagra and cialis was much better. viagra is over rated and outdated. i still havent tried the levitra. buts its only a matter of time. if none work, maybe i'll try and do a viagra/cialis/levitra cocktail and see what happens. what a perfect name.

**anadroljack** · 07-26-2010, 07:08 PM

take proviron with your gear and you will be worrying how to get it down.trust me.

**TKO Performance** · 07-26-2010, 07:43 PM

So you're have ED while actively on a cycle of test? I find that odd too. Everyone I've ever know that did test said it had the opposite effect. Claims were that it took you back to your teenage years when you wanted to nail anything that moved.

Are you sure that there is actual dysfunction or are you just worried that there will be? The anxiety over it could in fact be leading to ED. That's very common, as what we think often comes to pass. Think about when you're lifting and you sit down on the bench before going under the bar to try and bench a weight you've never done before, or failed at before. If you know before the attempt that you can't do it 9 times out of 10 you will fail. If you're convinced that you can then 9 times out of 10 you will get it. The same is true for sexual performance.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of drugs. They tend to develop dependency. You take some Viagra, etc. to get you over this stumbling point, and you may find out that you can't go back to normal performance without it. I'd listen to Hawaiian Pride. If you do take anything for this try the herbals first. It's less likely to become a dependency situation.

**kenny1022** · 07-26-2010, 08:25 PM

well, you are right. i left out some important info due to shame/embarassment that also plays a factor. i recently started taking lexapro by doctor as i have been experiencing depression from a lossed love one. he mentioned that my performance in bed would be delayed which was at first alarming but later on became a gift i.e. i could last long until she came for a change and the actually ejacualation felt like it went on forever, again TMI. things were good, similar hard-on, longer sex but it did take concentration a second round was almost out of the question unless i looked at porn. now along with the test, i started lexapro way before test, things seems to be even more stalled. i have an appointment to see my doc tomorrow but won't be discussing the gear. thanks again guys. it really means a lot.

**ds53** · 07-26-2010, 08:33 PM

I have taken both, and like both. But they are different. I have taken Viagra for 8+yrs and you take and bite off 1/2 of a 100mg tab, chew it up and let it dissolve in your mouth and absorb for a minute or two. Wash it down with some water and about 20 mins on a empty stomach or 30 to a hour after a meal and things will be waking up! The Viagra has alway lasted me up to 18 hrs. The first 10 or 12 hrs are pretty intense with really rock hard erections, after that you still get a good one but not quite as intense as earlier in the day. If I think I'm going to get lucky that day I will useally take it around noon and not have any problems late into the night. The only thing that makes me mad about it is I used to get them at pharm for $6.00 now they are over $20 cant wait for generic to become available. Cialis is not as intense and the feeling is a little different, but it works OK. I never really got more than 18 hrs out of one without losing effect. But thats just me, everyone is different.

**Ashop** · 07-26-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

Bros,

I just started dating this girl and the fear of not getting an erection while getting frisky is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm on 500 mg of Enanth EW and 9 weeks into the cycle.

What do you recommend - cialis, viagra or anything else for erectile dysfunction?

Thanks!!!

Ken

Run some PROVIRON during your cycle.
Also VIAGRA and CIALIS are always nice to have on hand.

**TKO Performance** · 07-26-2010, 08:54 PM

Antidepressants are often linked to sexual side effects. It sounds like the Lexapro was giving you delayed arousal, but also better staying power, and a more intense orgasm.

But now you've got a problem because you're running two different drugs in your system and it seems like they are having an interaction that is affecting your performance. Sure, you can throw a third one into the mix to treat the side effects of the other two, but do you really want to go down that road?

My advice, get counseling for your depression with a view towards weening yourself off Lexapro eventually. You have situational depression, not chronic depression. Which means that the chemical imbalance which is causing the depression is not permanent; it's a side effect of the emotions that you're having related to the loss you've experienced. It can take a while to cope with a severe loss properly (I won't say get over, because you never truly get over some things).

The goal should always be less drugs, not more.

BTW, was the Lexapro prescribed by a general practitioner or a psychiatrist?

**Fit N Fun** · 07-27-2010, 04:02 AM

Something wrong if you are on 500mg of test, you should be like a raging bull all the time, have you just changed supplier?

**Matt** · 07-27-2010, 04:41 AM

Alot depends on which stats your bringing to the table today...

**SuperBird** · 07-27-2010, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Fit N Fun

Something wrong if you are on 500mg of test, you should be like a raging bull all the time, have you just changed supplier?

well, not so true. because all of the guys suffering finadick is also doing 500mgs of test. its stupid not to. fina is a libido killer, thats its reputation, and if your doing fina, your doing test also... so its not true to say test will fix the situation because 90 percent of the time it wont.

libido drive, isnt just a product of test, its in the nervous system, and chemicals being secreted also. so there are at least three know elements of destruction there. low dopamine, low test and nervous system malfunction do to unknown effector. high test, no dopamine equals problem. high test, nervous system stress equals problem. also low nitric oxide equals a problem. loading on test doesnt fix problems, i can confirm this.

also bangin the same piece of ass in the same routine will not overwhelmingly rush the brain with dopamine and hardon chemicals. put an 18 year old girl that just is the finest thing to you in a schoolgirl outfit bent over in front of you and i bet we can all perform adequately. but thats a whole different mental system to deal with other than testosterone . and i checked the ARR product list and they dont have 18 year old chicks in schoolgirl outfits. yet. maybe we should say something.

**TKO Performance** · 07-27-2010, 01:59 PM

Exactly, the test is being counteracted by a central nervous system depressant. That may sound counterintuitive, but that's what antidepressants are. Think about how happy people get when they're drunk.

Stimulation is always key. I think a lot of people just approach sex wrong. If you're adventurous you need an adventurous partner. Otherwise it's going to get old quick. A lot of guys just look to get in and get off and don't care too much about their partner. Then they complain when they don't get oral or some position they want, etc. I've found that if you take care of your partner they will take care of you in return, and are much, much more apt to allow you to live out your fantasies. 18 year old chicks look hot, what can I say they're typically at their physical peak, but the general lack of experience that usually comes with it can be very disappointing. I've also found over the years that really super hot chicks are hit or miss in bed. In truth they very rarely live up to the ravenous sex goddess image you've built up in your mind. Sometimes they're fun, but other times they're fish.

**kenny1022** · 07-27-2010, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by TKO Performance

Antidepressants are often linked to sexual side effects. It sounds like the Lexapro was giving you delayed arousal, but also better staying power, and a more intense orgasm.

But now you've got a problem because you're running two different drugs in your system and it seems like they are having an interaction that is affecting your performance. Sure, you can throw a third one into the mix to treat the side effects of the other two, but do you really want to go down that road?

My advice, get counseling for your depression with a view towards weening yourself off Lexapro eventually. You have situational depression, not chronic depression. Which means that the chemical imbalance which is causing the depression is not permanent; it's a side effect of the emotions that you're having related to the loss you've experienced. It can take a while to cope with a severe loss properly (I won't say get over, because you never truly get over some things).

The goal should always be less drugs, not more.

BTW, was the Lexapro prescribed by a general practitioner or a psychiatrist?

tko - you know your stuff. a shrink prescribed the lexapro with the gameplan to ween me off after a year. i saw him today he gave me some viagra with another alternative to change the anti-depressant which i wasnt open to. bottomline the lexapro is working and my mental health should come first. as mentioned before, i didn't bring up the gear. i'm pretty sure he would have walked me out of the office if i didn't agree to stop the aas. so i do feel like i didn't give him the full story. but then again, he did mention the best thing i have going for myself was my hitting the gym since it's linked with helping with depression. using gear prob wasn't what he had in mind har har.

thanks, guys.

same supplier and gear.

stats:

before aas

155 lbs
5' 7"
14% bf

10-weeks on enanth:

168 lbs
11% bf

**charliemurphy229** · 07-27-2010, 08:56 PM

liquid cialis works the best for me.

**SuperBird** · 07-28-2010, 02:18 AM

this is my 6th day back on fina. already fina "the destroyer" has gone to work wreaking its havoc on my ability to release The Cracken!.

my girlfriend came over this morning at 11am to my surprise. i let her in and walked directly to my meds and broke out two 50mg tabs of viagra. 20 minutes later she got a call that her grandpa is having extreme difficulty in breathing, she had to leave to take him to the hospital.

X <------- right there would be the perfect place for a pissed off icon ripping up forty bucks.

**simonq10** · 07-28-2010, 07:12 AM

wow, mix all this info in and if you can't get it up and blow a good one then you may wanna ask yourself if you're straight or not.
Personally I think if your test levels & dopamine levels are good, and you're not overtrained to the point of lethargy, then bro it's just a mind game then. I think I can, I think I can....
But take a cialis, just in case, that way even if you can't finish she can.

**tballz** · 07-28-2010, 07:38 AM

Cialis, vardenfil, viagra all work for me.

**SuperBird** · 07-28-2010, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by simonq10

wow, mix all this info in and if you can't get it up and blow a good one then you may wanna ask yourself if you're straight or not.
Personally I think if your test levels & dopamine levels are good, and you're not overtrained to the point of lethargy, then bro it's just a mind game then. I think I can, I think I can....
But take a cialis, just in case, that way even if you can't finish she can.

i thought i could, i thought i could.