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    How should a year worth of Cycling look????

    Im trying to understand exactly how long you need in between cycles? After my first cycle I will start my PCT at week 14, 2 weeks after my last Injection of Test which will last for 4 weeks total. So that has me off any AAS 6 weeks. Would one start up say on the 7th week after being off or would you wait longer?

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    time on cycle+pct= time off

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    Depends but the usual rule of thumb is time off = time on + pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon View Post
    Depends but the usual rule of thumb is time off = time on + pct
    x2 you gotta have ample time for your body to recover

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    So 12 weeks on the cycle, 4 weeks worth of PCT. So we are looking at 16 weeks or 4 months before you should start another cycle after the last day of PCT? So your only looking at 2 cycles per year?

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    correct... the rules dont always apply... bloodwork is the best way to decide. If your bloodwork is not normalised in the time on= time off rule, then you wait longer. I recover fast so I can go back on quicker... some need agressive PCT and they still dont recover fully. BLOODWORK BLOODWORK BLOODWORK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oil-KID11 View Post
    So 12 weeks on the cycle, 4 weeks worth of PCT. So we are looking at 16 weeks or 4 months before you should start another cycle after the last day of PCT? So your only looking at 2 cycles per year?
    Correct. 2 average length cycles, or 3 short ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    correct... the rules dont always apply... bloodwork is the best way to decide. If your bloodwork is not normalised in the time on= time off rule, then you wait longer. I recover fast so I can go back on quicker... some need agressive PCT and they still dont recover fully. BLOODWORK BLOODWORK BLOODWORK
    When geting your post cycle pct do u try and match it to what is was pre cycle or accept that it will be lower.

    My test is 16.8 ( the stupid nurse couldnt tell me what that refered to), shoud i always expect to be lower, if so how much lower

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    OK great! These are great answers, was under the impression that you would only take say a month off with PCT and jump right back into it. Blood work I get done on Tuesday of next week. Only thing I have been doing is HGH. I was not willing to start my cycle until I had all my PCT products. Another question I have, through cycling and PCT, im hoping to increase my levels of Test when im off. I made the mistake of cycling when I was younger with many different products with no PCT and have dealt with lower Test levels for some time. So when reading blood work are you looking to see if you Test levels are back to where they were prior or that your body is sustaining its own production of Test? Im thinking that its sustaining its own production....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oil-KID11 View Post
    OK great! These are great answers, was under the impression that you would only take say a month off with PCT and jump right back into it. Blood work I get done on Tuesday of next week. Only thing I have been doing is HGH. I was not willing to start my cycle until I had all my PCT products. Another question I have, through cycling and PCT, im hoping to increase my levels of Test when im off. I made the mistake of cycling when I was younger with many different products with no PCT and have dealt with lower Test levels for some time. So when reading blood work are you looking to see if you Test levels are back to where they were prior or that your body is sustaining its own production of Test? Im thinking that its sustaining its own production....

    My doctor has all my records of blood work tests from years ago available on the internet. Invaluable information to be able to compare my levels from before I used AAS to after. If you have a good doctor they will listen, I told her I wanted a Testosterone test cause I saw a commercial on TV. She did not need to know I was just getting it to see if I damaged myself on my first cycle. Bloodwork is key, if it all comes up normal then your good to go. Time on +pct = time off is parroted standard. But if bloodwork is fine in terms of Lipids to Liver Function to Testosterone levels then your good to go another round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    When geting your post cycle pct do u try and match it to what is was pre cycle or accept that it will be lower.

    My test is 16.8 ( the stupid nurse couldnt tell me what that refered to), shoud i always expect to be lower, if so how much lower
    with a good PCT and a healthy system you should be back to full numbers fairly soon after PCT. Like I said, I recover super fast so its hard for me to tell what is "normal"... Ive even been dumb enough to not run a PCT before and was fully recoverred within 8 weeks... I would NEVER tell someone to do this as I lost a lot of gains and could have done much worse for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    with a good PCT and a healthy system you should be back to full numbers fairly soon after PCT. Like I said, I recover super fast so its hard for me to tell what is "normal"... Ive even been dumb enough to not run a PCT before and was fully recoverred within 8 weeks... I would NEVER tell someone to do this as I lost a lot of gains and could have done much worse for myself.

    X2, it also be known for people to bounce back with better test levels than before starting....
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    good read, was wondering this my self

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    Im on my first cycle. Ive been on a little over 3 months. I just got my lab results and my test level was at 3449 ng/dl the Doctor freaked and thats way higher than anyone Ive talked to has ever had. Everything else was in the normal range.

    Should I be concerned?

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    Please start your own post instead of hi-jacking someone else's. You'll get more responses. Welcome to the Site. re: levels, I wouldn't since you are injecting testosterone your levels are bound to go through the roof, I actually heard of levels way higher than that. Search the site.


    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles-reborn View Post
    Im on my first cycle. Ive been on a little over 3 months. I just got my lab results and my test level was at 3449 ng/dl the Doctor freaked and thats way higher than anyone Ive talked to has ever had. Everything else was in the normal range.

    Should I be concerned?

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    Is it common to find guys that are on juice year around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oil-KID11 View Post
    Im trying to understand exactly how long you need in between cycles? After my first cycle I will start my PCT at week 14, 2 weeks after my last Injection of Test which will last for 4 weeks total. So that has me off any AAS 6 weeks. Would one start up say on the 7th week after being off or would you wait longer?


    You can not generalize cycles everyone is different, every cycle is different filled with different compounds and may have added orals.but that all does not even matter your blood is the key to finder were your at.
    Last edited by zabster151; 08-06-2010 at 12:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    X2, it also be known for people to bounce back with better test levels than before starting....
    I've read that this is only a temporary phenomenon and the result of the bodies acute response to low hormones and that the effect is not lasting. Just something I read....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oil-KID11 View Post
    Is it common to find guys that are on juice year around?
    its called hrt

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    you should do some serious research/soulsearching before you take that route

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