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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    In the end..... what you decide to use as a tool is dependant on what you are looking to achieve. If you want to add 20lbs of mass in 3 months time..... HGH isn't your choice. However..... if you have the time and money..... it might be a great choice.....

    ~Haz~
    I agree with all you have said.

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    What is intresting to me is no one has said that they would stick with Deca or NPP!

    Which begs the question "why are so many people Running nandrolone in there 2nd and 3rd cycles?"

    It is obvious that we live in a world where we want thing now and cheap regardless of how you get it.

    It would be nice to see more Mast, Primo, Var reccomendations before other compounds

    Gains will be slower, it will cost more, but you cant put a price on your health, im in this for the long term and anyone who is using AAS should be aswell.

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    As a fellow newb to AAS i think this has been one of the best threads I've read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    What is intresting to me is no one has said that they would stick with Deca or NPP!

    Which begs the question "why are so many people Running nandrolone in there 2nd and 3rd cycles?"

    It is obvious that we live in a world where we want thing now and cheap regardless of how you get it.

    It would be nice to see more Mast, Primo, Var reccomendations before other compounds

    Gains will be slower, it will cost more, but you cant put a price on your health, im in this for the long term and anyone who is using AAS should be aswell.
    To be honest I'm a little surprised that someone didn't mention nandrolone either..

    I was expecting one of the TRT guys to chime in.

    Lots of people do use nandrolone continuously for many years. I have a good friend who has been on a therapeutic dose of 150mg/wk for nearly a year and a half now. Of course supplemented by his TRT regiment.

    ^^ The reason no one probably suggested it was because deca isn't a particularly expensive compound. Especially at doses like 100 - 200mg/wk.

    -VM

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    Thinking about it im not suprised about the Nandrolone not being brought up, we know it shuts you down hard and eventuall that is going to be more detrimental to your health

    When i say 'health' i am talking more specifically about HPTA depression

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    Quote Originally Posted by wnehme View Post
    Baseline...i think hudge lifter should be FLAMED..

    Jesus..DBOL and Tren for the rest of your life..liver donor handy?
    Sorry, I didn't mean on year round. I would just use them on and off forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Are you suggesting that you would run tren for the fest of your cycles regardless of the toxicity and sides.

    I should have said, if your son was going to use steroids and you had to advise him on the safest drugs to run ove the long run which would you choose.

    I dont hink many would say tren

    Just my opinion tho
    I have run tren with no sides on a few occasions. I need to mention that I didn't check blood levels at the time, but fine afterwards.

    I do not mean I would stay on this year round, however, these are my favorite substances and I would use them in many future cycles.

    The mildest substances are var and primo if that's what people are looking for.

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    How come so many people have said Primo?

    I was a bit suprised by that?

    What are the effects of Primo if run up to 1g?

    What would it add to a cycle if ran that high ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tembe View Post
    How come so many people have said Primo?

    I was a bit suprised by that?

    What are the effects of Primo if run up to 1g?

    What would it add to a cycle if ran that high ?
    It does not convert to estrogen so it can be run at a high dose, i think it may also inhibit so conversion of other compounds to estrogen, making those compounds more effective, clean gains.

    For a real answer we will see what the guys put who have run it, i am also intrested in the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    What is intresting to me is no one has said that they would stick with Deca or NPP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    To be honest I'm a little surprised that someone didn't mention nandrolone either..
    -VM

    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    I dont have a ton of experience with different compounds, but if test is already in the mix, I would definately say NPP and Tren. Havent used anything else... would like to take a shot @ mast one day
    geez, I realize Im nobody, but I dont like to be ignored

    Im going to run NPP instead of tren for a while as I enjoyed it that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    It does not convert to estrogen so it can be run at a high dose, i think it may also inhibit so conversion of other compounds to estrogen, making those compounds more effective, clean gains.

    For a real answer we will see what the guys put who have run it, i am also intrested in the answer

    yeh because i did not think primo was that effective of a compound these days...

    very interested to hear the reasoning and effects of high dose primo

    would be very expensive however haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    geez, I realize Im nobody, but I dont like to be ignored

    Im going to run NPP instead of tren for a while as I enjoyed it that much.
    I did think sum1 put NPP. But when looking back thru the thread i must have missed ur post

    Maybe admin is just blocking us from reading ur posts cuz u whore too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Maybe admin is just blocking us from reading ur posts cuz u whore too much
    possibly, cause I dont know much about what Im doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    possibly, cause I dont know much about what Im doing
    LOL

    So your not worried about the hard shutdown from nandrolone ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    LOL

    So your not worried about the hard shutdown from nandrolone??
    I have never experienced serious shutdown, and I recover super fast after cycle. I guess for those who do it may be a problem, but I felt so good on last cycle that I will add it in again next time... maybe its cause I cycle with low doses.

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    Great thread baseline.

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