Sust 250/winny cycle

**manager** · 02-18-2003, 12:52 PM

This will be my first cycle ever. I am thinking of running:

1-10 500mg sust250
7-12 50mg winny eod

I have clomid and novla on hand. Has anyone run this cycle before and what kind of results did you get?
I am also a little unsure of when to start the clomid, but I think 3 days after the last dose of winny, please correct me if I am wrong.
I have access to some Var, does anyone think that using with this stack would be useful or just stick with the Sust/winny?
Thanks bro's.

**Got Gear?** · 02-18-2003, 12:58 PM

Looks like a decent cycle..

Wait 3 weeks after your last shot of sust to start clomid (or 1 week after winny)

Inject the sust 2x a week.

Can I suggest D-bol weeks 1-4 and then maybe wait till week 8 for the winny? Or even just weeks 1-3 with d-bol?

**Ozzy** · 02-18-2003, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by manager
This will be my first cycle ever. I am thinking of running:

1-10 500mg sust250
7-12 50mg winny eod

I have clomid and novla on hand. Has anyone run this cycle before and what kind of results did you get?
I am also a little unsure of when to start the clomid, but I think 3 days after the last dose of winny, please correct me if I am wrong.
I have access to some Var, does anyone think that using with this stack would be useful or just stick with the Sust/winny?
Thanks bro's.

Run the winny weeks 8-13....because the sustanon will be still going through your system at week 12. The day after your last winny tab start clomid...........300mg day 1 / 200mg for 10 days and then 50mg ed for 10 days. As far as the anavar I'm not sure you should run it in there at all. Anyone else ?

**manager** · 02-18-2003, 01:59 PM

Thanks bro's. I think I will start the winny a week later maybe like this:

1-10 500mg sust
8-13 50mg eod.

You guys both have dif. views on when to take clomid, when is the right time to take clomid?
I may take d-bol later down the road, however I do not want it in my 1st cycle, but thank for the sugg.

Anyone else?

**Got Gear?** · 02-18-2003, 05:47 PM

If you read closely, we have the same views on when to take the clomid.

Ie) 3 weeks after your last sust shot. I said wait a week after the winny is done (3 weeks after sust) then take clomid. Ozzy said run the winny for an additional week and then take the clomid right away. Either way you do it, it's 3 weeks after last sust injection.

D-bol is not an option? It's going to be a long 3 weeks before you start to see results!

**Madmax** · 02-18-2003, 06:25 PM

if i was you i would drop the winny and add var instead....i would also add eq in there..that would be a great cycle....var and eq go really well together.....Madmax...

**manager** · 02-19-2003, 10:25 AM

My bad got gear, you guys did say the same thing.
Madmax you really think that var would be better than winny?
Has anyone ever run winny and var at the same time?

**manager** · 02-20-2003, 12:50 PM

bump.

**Got Gear?** · 02-20-2003, 01:53 PM

Sorry guy, can't help ya with your last set of questions... BUMP

**themaxx** · 02-20-2003, 02:29 PM

manager i'm going to run a similar cycle shortly.trying to gain a little lean mass while loosing some body fat:

weeks 1-2 D-bol 30mg( just to kickstart the cycle )
" " 1-10 Sust 500 per week( I may taper down towards the end of the cycle to help loose some water )
" " 8-12 winny 50mg EOD
6-?? Clem/ECA( alternate 2 weeks of each )

Lowish carb/high pro diet etc.

Manager I'd recommend some D-Bol for the first 2-3 weeks even at 20mg a day as this will help until the sus kicks in.You shouldn't get any sides from such a low dose and if your like me even a small dose of D-bol will be effective.

**Madmax** · 02-20-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by manager
My bad got gear, you guys did say the same thing.
Madmax you really think that var would be better than winny?
Has anyone ever run winny and var at the same time?

it's like apples and oranges bro....run the var if you want better results...winny is best used to maintain muscle while dieting....people sometimes misunderestand it's effects and believe it is the wonder drug...var will make you harder and leaner...Madmax..