Dare I say, your more "Safer" steroid(s)...

**CaliburKid** · 09-21-2010, 05:45 PM

After going through a few of the steroid profiles here, I was wondering which, IF any are a more "Safer" steroid out. Is there actually a steroid that if taken at a minimum dosage, a PCT possibly would NOT be needed (I guess bloodwork would be the determining factor as well as person using)? Are majority of steroids preferred to be used for 6 weeks or so. Any that can be used for a smaller amount?

**sixey** · 09-21-2010, 06:05 PM

idk what your cycle experience or goals are...but i just ran an anavar only cycle, i know alot of guys scoff at it, but if you are looking to gain about 10lbs and lean out nicely with no sides or shutdown...var works great (at least for me, im sure others have had different experiences).

but almost all other steroids will shut you down and require pct.

**Times Roman** · 09-21-2010, 06:06 PM

sure. i take 200mg eow of test cyp. it's called trt and no need for pct

but them ballz still wanna do a little shrinking on ya, so watch out!

**Times Roman** · 09-21-2010, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by sixey

idk what your cycle experience or goals are...but i just ran an anavar only cycle, i know alot of guys scoff at it, but if you are looking to gain about 10lbs and lean out nicely with no sides or shutdown...var works great (at least for me, im sure others have had different experiences).

but almost all other steroids will shut you down and require pct.

var only still fuks with my libido

**sixey** · 09-21-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

var only still fuks with my libido

see thats why i said "im sure it varies". i was as horny as ever, almost felt MORE cranked up. when researching before this cycle it seemed that for most people it was either hit or miss with libido/shutdown

**Times Roman** · 09-21-2010, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by sixey

see thats why i said "im sure it varies". i was as horny as ever, almost felt MORE cranked up. when researching before this cycle it seemed that for most people it was either hit or miss with libido/shutdown

I know what you meant. Just throwing a different view out there. and for me, var also makes me a wee bit tired. I've been doing my reading, and I'm going to seriously increase my water intake, although my "var only" days are behind me. (or any "orals only" for that matter....)

and when I take drol, i'm more than a wee bit tired. I've been playing around with taking drol right before bed. but i still wake up tired. so I'm really hoping that all the water will somehow reduce how tired I feel.

**gymnerd** · 09-21-2010, 07:51 PM

Why on earth would you NOT want to run a pct? Its always needed, you should want to not take any chances at all and take all the precautions you can. Not look for a loophole to get out of paying for PCT meds WTH??

**Jahcuree** · 09-21-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Why on earth would you NOT want to run a pct? Its always needed, you should want to not take any chances at all and take all the precautions you can. Not look for a loophole to get out of paying for PCT meds WTH??

I don't think paying for PCT would be the issue would it? Since the chemicals are fairly cheap. Wouldn't more of the reason be the negative long term effects of the semi-new and not yet long-term tested PCT chems? Just a Q.

**CaliburKid** · 09-22-2010, 06:44 PM

Believe me, I wouldn't get out of a PCT cycle at all...Reason I'm asking is because I juuuust started a dianabol cycle. 1st cycle and I'm such a puss, I'm doing 6 weeks at like half of half a cycle...I've read that some do cycles of 40/50/60/60/50/40, however I'm doing 10/20/30/30/20/10 instead...
I know, I know...Why such a bitch cycle and why no injectable as well? Beats me! I have Tamox/Nolva as a PCT, however would Clomid also be needed for such a small dosage cycle (Bloodwork)? Anywho, just asking...Thanks!

**gymnerd** · 09-22-2010, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jahcuree

I don't think paying for PCT would be the issue would it? Since the chemicals are fairly cheap. Wouldn't more of the reason be the negative long term effects of the semi-new and not yet long-term tested PCT chems? Just a Q.

Dude nolva and clomid have been around for decades.

***D7M*** · 09-22-2010, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Dude nolva and clomid have been around for decades.

He's probably referring to second generation SERMs

**gymnerd** · 09-22-2010, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by CaliburKid

Believe me, I wouldn't get out of a PCT cycle at all...Reason I'm asking is because I juuuust started a dianabol cycle. 1st cycle and I'm such a puss, I'm doing 6 weeks at like half of half a cycle...I've read that some do cycles of 40/50/60/60/50/40, however I'm doing 10/20/30/30/20/10 instead...
I know, I know...Why such a bitch cycle and why no injectable as well? Beats me! I have Tamox/Nolva as a PCT, however would Clomid also be needed for such a small dosage cycle (Bloodwork)? Anywho, just asking...Thanks!

Well I dont like that cycle for obvious reasons, but on the PCT side of things yes you dont need alot. Nolva at 20mg ed for a month will prob be enough, I think guys rely too much on pct to bring there test up anyways.

Yes run a pct, also lift heavy during that time. Eat alot of clean calories, get plenty of esential fatty acids and get alot of red meats in that is really good for raising natty test levels. And get plenty of rest dont drink too much, get plenty of water and you will recover fine.