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    So another newb question

    Being around many of my brothers in iron for so long who had gone to the darkside I have gotten many opinions about gear cycles etc...

    I am thinking of competiting in a NPC BB comeptition next year and have plenty of time to prepare...(may possibly postpone it for 2 years if need be). Anyway for my first ever cycle the research nerd inside me says "try one compound...see how you react". So, if you guys could only take one compound what would it be to start?

    I am currently 6'2 (or 6'1 at the end of the day) and weigh 212lbs. I have been up to 265 off contest (naturally) and have cut down to 200 for my contest (Naturally). I am looking for something with not a ton of sides, and something that will give me some decent gains and to see how my system reacts. Really don't want the bloat or need the bulk at this time IMO. I can bulk easily. Cutting is the hard part for me.

    I was thinking of running Primo only for 12 weeks at 400mgs a week OR
    Var at 30mg ED for 8 weeks. Any thoughts on this? Also not sure, but all the research I have read in school etc...I don't think I would need any PCT treatment with these....am I mistaken?

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    Thanks! Oh some other information that might help....is I am prob about 12- 14% or so BF (guessing having not done underwater weighing or skin calipers in a long time). I am also vegetarian, which when I competed before I was NOT, so this may effect things. However I do absolutely love killing myself in the gym...its quite sick and twisted...but really fun.

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    Test, test, test!! Test should be the base of any cycle! I had the same worries for my first cycle as well however quickly realized I can cut on anything and not bloat. It really depends on diet and cardio. Everyone reacts differently and some may hold more water then another but if you BF% is low enough you shouldnt see many sides! Since test should be the base of any cycle, you should start with it! Check out the stickies and educational threads! Also how old are you? If your under 25 then wait!!

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    Interesting. I am 27, I am already bald (sadly again, naturally) so I dont worry that side. Ok, Well I had looked at Test Eth, simply because even though I am in the medical field I don't want to stick myself every day. Thoughts? I know suspension is amazing, but short acting...which means more sticks.

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    Again if your diet,cardio,training are on test is the best first compound. For my first cycle I used Test Cyp, 10 weeks, good gains, then for this one I am using Test E and the gains seem better! Search for Test E and you'll get lots of information as well as in the stickies!

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    Yes I found some very interesting stuff already. Did you used the typical PCT during the cycle like was reccomended in the stickies? Just curious if I should go ahead and have the Clo, Nolva and Ldex handy.

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    Yes you should. Never start a cycle unless you have everything on hand! And PCT is for after the cycle, not during just to clarify!

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    Well a lot of the stickies are reccomending doing it concurrently.....

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    They might be recommend doing Adex during the cycle!

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    yep you are correct! I misread the thread. And actually Mudmann reccomended beginning it 2 weeks prior to the cycle.

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