Need Help with first cycle. Starting it end of November.

**lonelysoldier1988** · 10-10-2010, 07:31 AM

Hi everyone, first things first stats!

Hgt : 5-10
Wieght: 193 wake up. 200 after 6 meals. 200 with cloths
Waist: 34
Training: 2 years
Age: 22
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I have read, read and read. For months on in about this stuff, I seem
still a little confused on timing. I understand what compounds are what. But the whole relation to timing for PCT is kinda throwing me off a little. So many people have so many different opinions.

And also letro? I understand people suggest takeing it 2wks out then continue threw the cycle.

I was wondering if an expierenced AS user could lay out a good cycle and PCT with optimum estrogen controll for me. So I can have a pretty good idea.

I understand nutrition very well. As it was the first thing I focused my attention to. When I first entered the gym.

Thanks..

Hope to get a good start from this post!

**Kibble** · 10-10-2010, 07:34 AM

You understand nutrition? Your waist is as big as mine and I weigh 40lbs more....so your bf may be around 17-18%

Also, you are younger than the suggested starting age.

Do not use Letro during a cycle for estrogen control. If you are worried, then maybe 10mg Nolva ED, or .5mg Adex ED or EOD.

PCT timing depends on the ester of the steroids used. When the steroid clears your system you begin pct immediately.

Publish your proposed cycle so that people can review and assess your knowledge. Thanks

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-10-2010, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by lonelysoldier1988

Hi everyone, first things first stats!

Hgt : 5-10
Wieght: 193 wake up. 200 after 6 meals. 200 with cloths
Waist: 34
Training: 2 years 5 years minimum to begin steroid usage. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187
Age: 22 Too young, read the link suggested above.
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I have read, read and read. For months on in about this stuff, I seem
still a little confused on timing. I understand what compounds are what. But the whole relation to timing for PCT is kinda throwing me off a little. So many people have so many different opinions.

When you are ready, come back and propose a PCT for us, I'll critique it.

And also letro? I understand people suggest takeing it 2wks out then continue threw the cycle.

Femara as a last resort or for Gyno reversal. Stick with Aromasin.

I was wondering if an expierenced AS user could lay out a good cycle and PCT with optimum estrogen controll for me. So I can have a pretty good idea.

No one here is going to do your homework. And even if they did, you aren't qualified to begin anabolics. Other boards condone the use of it, but we here in AR don't.

I understand nutrition very well. As it was the first thing I focused my attention to. When I first entered the gym.

Thanks..

Hope to get a good start from this post!

Bold.

**lonelysoldier1988** · 10-10-2010, 08:20 AM

1-10 Test E 500 : Monday Morning 250 Thursday Evening 250
1-4 DBol 40 : Spread out 4x through out the day

When do start taking aromasin for estrogen controll. Honestly I think I might need it. I dont want to risk it so...

PCT

14 weeks after last inject

Clomid 1-4 100/100/50/50
Nolva 1-4 40/40/20/20

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-10-2010, 08:25 AM

Are you kidding me? Did you not read what has been said already? You have limited knowledge on the usage of steroids . Keep up with the bullshit posts after solid advice has been given then expect the thread to be locked shortly.

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 10-10-2010, 08:33 AM

You are too young to be considering AAS.

The diet and training sections of the board are where you need to be.

If you decide to go against the advice and recommendations given please do not come running back here when sh1t goes bad, which it will. GL!

**marcus300** · 10-10-2010, 08:40 AM

Steroids aren't for you at this stage, please read the purple links below and educate yourself. If you dort your diet out you will start gaining, check out the diet section.

**spoken_truth** · 10-10-2010, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by lonelysoldier1988

1-10 Test E 500 : Monday Morning 250 Thursday Evening 250
1-4 DBol 40 : Spread out 4x through out the day

When do start taking aromasin for estrogen controll. Honestly I think I might need it. I dont want to risk it so...

PCT

14 weeks after last inject

Clomid 1-4 100/100/50/50
Nolva 1-4 40/40/20/20

pct 14 weeks after last injection? i hope you meant 14 days