*noob alert* first cutting stack // pct

[kleaver]

I'm brand new to AAS, but have been bodybuilding naturally for years

I'm looked into a cutting stack that went something like this:
week 1,2,3
week 4,5,6- clen
week 7,8,9- eca
week 10,11,12- clen
week 13,14,15- eca
week 16,17,18- clen

once body temp returns to normal, stop the cycle for a few weeks. this is your body adjusting to the thermo effects of the ECA and Clen


I also want to run something like dbol or deca to keep any muscle mass loss

how does this look?

Do i need an anti-e like a serm or an ai DURING the cycle... or in PCT
and what type of pct is best in a cycle like this.

hope this isn't an annoying noob post- i have been reading through all of the sections, and put together as much info as i could so that i had a general cycle idea. (i still don't REALLY get pct enough to design one)

[LouHulk]

It looks terrible. I'm not going to try and advise you but there will surely be some folks in shortly to tell you where you have gone wrong.

They are also going to want to know your stats : Age, Weight, BF%, height, Training Experience, and PCT knowledge

[HawaiianPride.]

Welcome.

Have you visited the educational threads?
List some stats for us.

age
weight
height
bf
training experience

[kleaver]

23
165
5'10
10-11
power/strength lifting, 6 years ... bodybuilding (hypertrophy lifting) 3-4 yeras

coming out of an offseason diet, currently eating high pro, moderate carb, high fat
4day lifting split
moderate mix of HIIT cardio and steady state

I have been on the edu threads but i'm new to the idea of AAS, and i think I may have misunderstood/mixed up some of the articles

[HawaiianPride.]

What is your BF? Your a slim guy how much more do you want to cut?

[scotty51312]

I'm brand new to AAS, but have been bodybuilding naturally for years

I'm looked into a cutting stack that went something like this:
week 1,2,3 what are you taking week 1,2,3? nothing?
week 4,5,6- clen
week 7,8,9- ecaEphedrine burns out beta receptors just like clen, you're results will quickly deminish the way you're planning it. read the profile on clen
week 10,11,12- clen
week 13,14,15- ecaOnce again you're taking your break from clen and going on ECA. Research on liquid keto from Ar-r.com And why you're beta receptors will burn out
week 16,17,18- clen

once body temp returns to normal, stop the cycle for a few weeks. this is your body adjusting to the thermo effects of the ECA and Clen
I'm not sure about this comment there are things you can take to help restore your body's sensitivity to clen or ECA , bennydryl being the easiest to obtain


I also want to run something like dbol or deca to keep any muscle mass loss
clen is good for keeping your body anabolic. So is ephedrine. Running solo dbol or deca would be a horrible idea

how does this look?

Do i need an anti-e like a serm or an ai DURING the cycle... or in PCT
and what type of pct is best in a cycle like this.
if you're running just clen and ECA no need for a serm. Much more research before thinking about AAS. Also you've got a couple years before your endochrine system matures so you should wait till then and try to achieve your goals naturally

hope this isn't an annoying noob post- i have been reading through all of the sections, and put together as much info as i could so that i had a general cycle idea. (i still don't REALLY get pct enough to design one)

Its not annoying. We were all new once. Stop and research through training and diet forums here for a while while reading the AAS board till you pick up the knowledge you need. At your size though i'd be looking to add a little more lean mass before i cut. Also whats your bodyfat? if you dont' know post up some pics and we can give you a good estimate that will be within 1 or 2%

[kleaver]

ty scotty,

around 10-11% bf

i'll keep doing more research for sure... wanted to post this up based on the gear i know i can get, and to try and iron things out before i try anything

just got 2lb lean out of my last mass phase (natural)- want to shed to <10% (not too low, but shredded) to get my fitness modeling pictures re-shot