new user, advice please.

**jldavies** · 02-25-2003, 09:28 PM

Hey there guys. I have been researchingnow for about the last month or so every night trying to get as much info as I can and everyone out there seems to be great. Thanks. But I still am unclear on some things as there is so much discrepency between different people and different sources of info. I am 22 years old and have been training hardcore for over a year now. I am 5'8" tall and weigh in at around 200lbs. I have gained around 20 or so pounds in the last year off of just protein and glutamine, however I have hit a plateau for the last 3 months or so and need some help to get over it. I have read that a deca /d-bol cycle will allow me to put on the mass and be able to maintain a good portion of it after the cycle concludes. I have seen alot of different cycles and for a first time user it seems to be a cycle of:
week deca(mg/week) d-bol(mg/day) clomid mg/day
1 100 40
2 200 50
3 300 50
4 400 50
5 400 30
6 300
7 200
8 100
9 100
10 50
Can you guys please give me some info, I am looking to go to around 225, but I would also rather take it easy for the fist cycle. Thanks guys.

**jldavies** · 02-25-2003, 09:30 PM

sorry guys typing got screwed up that is supposed to be 100mg/day in week 9 and 50mg/day in week 10 of clomid not deca .

**wimp** · 02-25-2003, 09:40 PM

first off there is no need to pyramid the deca . second, you need test in there. for dbol i would use about 30-40mg.

**Slypknot** · 02-25-2003, 09:47 PM

I agree with wimp - Deca does not need to be in a pyramid, you'll get the same bennies from it as your blood levels will build up. Just keep it at 400mg throughout.

I also believe you need test - I've had, and read, great things with Sust... perhaps 500mg a week (shots split into 3 days)... the dbol will do great for a jumpstart on your cycle... other than looks good!

**painintheazz** · 02-26-2003, 06:37 AM

Wimp is on the money.

Pain

**sd11** · 02-26-2003, 07:05 AM

Def. get some test and I would suggest something like:
1-4 dbol 30-40mg ed
1-10 test 500mg ew
1-10 deca 400mg ew
week 13 start clomid 300mg day1, 100mg 10 days, 50mg 10 days