1ST Cycle - Prop/HCG/Arimidex on hand

**jimi1** · 12-07-2010, 04:21 PM

Have everything ready for my first cycle. Looking to start tomorrow

5'11
188-190
12-15%

Weeks 1-12

* 75mg prop ED or 150 EOD? Prop is 200mg/mL
* Arimidex 0.25mg ED

Week 3-12
HCG 500IU EOD or 100IU ED?

PCT
3 days after last pin
Week 1: 40mg Nolva ED
Week 2-4: 20mg Nolva ED

Questions:

Are my dosages and timing OK?
Is 12 weeks too long for prop?
Is it best to run HCG during a prop cycle or after?
If I run HCG throughout my cycle, is Nolva only PCT OK?

Thanks

**jimi1** · 12-08-2010, 11:48 PM

anyone?

**Matt** · 12-09-2010, 04:37 AM

Timings are ok, run the hcg during your cycle and id still run a standard pct which would include clomid....

How old are you??

**jimi1** · 12-09-2010, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Matt

Timings are ok, run the hcg during your cycle and id still run a standard pct which would include clomid....

How old are you??

Awesome thanks for the reply
I'm 30

**Matt** · 12-09-2010, 04:52 AM

Good luck bro....

**cro** · 12-09-2010, 06:10 AM

good luck

**yungone501** · 12-09-2010, 08:41 AM

Unless ur using prop for specific reasoning, u would appreciate test e more due to less pinning. I ran prop in my first cycle only to be rewarded by painfulinjection spots all over.

**jimi1** · 12-09-2010, 04:21 PM

Matt, cro - Thank you

Originally Posted by yungone501

Unless ur using prop for specific reasoning, u would appreciate test e more due to less pinning. I ran prop in my first cycle only to be rewarded by painfulinjection spots all over.

it was a gift..
I'm not looking forward to the frequent pinning, but I'll be warming the vial before injection, massaging and taking a hot shower after. Hopefully that helps.

I read that EOD does not provide a stable test level so ED is preferred.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ting-ED-vs-EOD

**littleriverman** · 12-09-2010, 04:34 PM

prop for a first cycle I hope for you that you aren't one of the people that get pip(post injection pain) pain from prop because you're in for one ****ed ride

warming it up, massaging and taking a hot shower will do nothing. start off with quads then glutes to guage the pain if the pain is to bad get some grape or cotton oil to cut it. you might get lucky and your body will respond well to what ever oil is used in your prop but if it's hg you're ****ed

**jimi1** · 12-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by littleriverman

prop for a first cycle I hope for you that you aren't one of the people that get pip(post injection pain) pain from prop because you're in for one ****ed ride

warming it up, massaging and taking a hot shower will do nothing. start off with quads then glutes to guage the pain if the pain is to bad get some grape or cotton oil to cut it. you might get lucky and your body will respond well to what ever oil is used in your prop but if it's hg you're ****ed

Thanks for the tip. The brand is BD and it contains lidocaine

**jimi1** · 05-11-2011, 08:43 PM

Never took it, had to leave the country for duty. I'm back now, and I'm ready to get started. I still have the prop/arimidex /hcg on hand. I'm a little apprehensive of the daily pinning with prop, seems like there's nothing but negative comments on it

**THE-DET-OAK** · 05-11-2011, 09:24 PM

eod is plenty for prop

**jimi1** · 05-12-2011, 10:48 PM

thanks det-oak

**jimi1** · 05-18-2011, 05:08 PM

so I just noticed my BD vial of prop is cracked at the lid, is it still safe to use?

**SG2009** · 05-18-2011, 08:26 PM

good luck on your first cycle

**Lemonada8** · 05-18-2011, 08:52 PM

I love prop, and do no other test base. Id do ED injections, yes you can do EOD but you woudl ahve to alternate the day/night and such. I liked injeting ed in the morning before i worked out that day. Be sure to inject ur workoutconcentration day. aka inject quad on a squat day. makes the pain much more bearable. Save the armidex till u need it, with such a short ester, estro sides are kept to a minimum.
As for HCG , do it 2x week at 500iu. Thats the most productive use of HCG during a cycle to keep ITT up.
as for PCT, depends on how you feel might wanna throw i a low dose clomid during PCT to help boost if u feel lagging behind. (50mg ed ,IMO... if u do a clomid pct u do 100/100/50/50, but since ur doin a test only cycle IMO you dont need clomid if u have HCG during cycle. ALso look for some triptorelin, its the new wonderdrug for PCT, take adavantage of a surge of gonadotropins to reboot ur balls.

good luck and make sure u have a clean diet and ull love ur results

!!!