new member first cycle advice please guys

**hillbill78** · 12-27-2010, 10:54 AM

hello everyone
right ive signed hopeing you guys can help me on with a few bits and bobs :]
first thing first -
STATS:
age-23
height-6 foot
weight-almost touching 13 stone
body-fat - low b,f all round but higher on stomach area, someone had to eat the mince pies (almost visible abs though

) lol
think thats it on that section.
EXPIRIENCE
im a keen bodybuilder and have been for the last 3 years lifting 3-5 times a week with set programmes etc.
DIET
my diet is good and clean getting that 1.5-2g protein per 1lb of bodyweight, eating 5-6 meals a day every 2-3 hours.

i have decided to start my first cycle in 1 week from now as i have found gaing (strength and size) is coming to a hault.

CYCLE: thinking of not jumping in the deeper end and starting off with something light just to build my confidence up with aas as im sure like most i do fear sides.
thinking of running anavar for 6-8 week @60mg e.d. i have seen this is a very popular steroid for its safety and decent gains and mild PCT. but i know alot of people will always say to run some sort of test as a base so my questions are:

1:do you have more chance of getting libido problems after a test cycle compare to an anavar cycle?

2: is 60mg e,d a good daily dose when taking var

3:is libido a very commen problem when taking var, if so is their any supplements to counter act that ? like tribulus ?

4: do most think anavar only cycles are very good for beginners ?

GOAL: to gain a decent amount of size & strength, (with minimal sides) and keep the b,f down.

im asking these questions as i am 23 and do want full use of my pecker when it comes to the ladies !!

cheers everyone :]

**hillbill78** · 12-27-2010, 12:47 PM

anyone ??

**magic32** · 12-27-2010, 05:40 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...PROFILES-FORUM

**hillbill78** · 12-28-2010, 06:20 AM

so by the looks of things you have less chance of having long term damage if you just run anavar instead of test yea ?

**PistolStarta** · 12-28-2010, 06:50 AM

no, anavar does have side effects and can shut you down.

**hillbill78** · 12-28-2010, 09:39 AM

what i want to know is lets say someone only ever plans to do 1 cycle (not saying this would be my only one) and there thinking anavar or test-e. price isnt a concern and they want to do a cycle with minimal side effects and very low risks of long term damage what is the safer option ? test or var ????
thanks so far you lot

**toofatbuilder** · 12-29-2010, 07:17 PM

bump! ive always heard test is the way to go, but things have changed. and what kind of test do you plan on using?

**hillbill78** · 12-30-2010, 07:42 AM

if i were to use test it would be test enanthate at 500mg per week for 10-12 weeks
or if i went with anavar which i feel would be right for me now as im nervous about taking aas i would run it at 60-80mg e.d for 6-8 weeks
looking at thoses two cycles is anavar the one that will lead to alot less sides, short & long term ???
thanks again

**MBMETC** · 12-30-2010, 08:12 AM

in an underdeveloped endocrine system all ass can have a negative impact, best to play it safe and wait a couple more years.

**bruary17** · 12-30-2010, 08:20 AM

your 23, so any sides they may show up in a more appropriate aged body builder are MORE likely to show up at the age of 23. MBMETC's advice is sound. Wait a couple more years. Build your foundation till then.

**hillbill78** · 12-30-2010, 11:27 AM

fair shout guys but i have waited a long time for this and i feel i am ready to take bodybuilding to the next level.
if any one can answer my last question i would be very greatfull
thanks again everyone :]

**hillbill78** · 01-01-2011, 02:29 PM

bump

**luigimaster24** · 01-01-2011, 02:44 PM

I am 26 at the moment. I irresponsibly did my first cycle at 21, however I started lifting when I was 14. I did Sustanon 250 @ 250mg/week and then at 23 I did my second cycle at 500mg/ week. Great results and my pecker has not had any issues. However 1 mistake I made which I regret to this day is not having done PCT therapy afterwards for my second cycle due to a job transfer overseas. Anyway, long story short, moderation , responsibility and PCT !! are crucial in whatever you decide to do . In the end I would say wait a couple more years like the rest of the bros but if your already set on it ...BE CAREFUL

just my 2 cents , hope this helps.

**MAC MAN** · 01-01-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by hillbill78

hello everyone
right ive signed hopeing you guys can help me on with a few bits and bobs :]
first thing first -
STATS:
age-23
height-6 foot
weight-almost touching 13 stone
body-fat - low b,f all round but higher on stomach area, someone had to eat the mince pies (almost visible abs though

) lol
think thats it on that section.
EXPIRIENCE
im a keen bodybuilder and have been for the last 3 years lifting 3-5 times a week with set programmes etc.
DIET
my diet is good and clean getting that 1.5-2g protein per 1lb of bodyweight, eating 5-6 meals a day every 2-3 hours.

i have decided to start my first cycle in 1 week from now as i have found gaing (strength and size) is coming to a hault.

CYCLE: thinking of not jumping in the deeper end and starting off with something light just to build my confidence up with aas as im sure like most i do fear sides.
thinking of running anavar for 6-8 week @60mg e.d. i have seen this is a very popular steroid for its safety and decent gains and mild PCT. but i know alot of people will always say to run some sort of test as a base so my questions are:

1:do you have more chance of getting libido problems after a test cycle compare to an anavar cycle?

2: is 60mg e,d a good daily dose when taking var

3:is libido a very commen problem when taking var, if so is their any supplements to counter act that ? like tribulus ?

4: do most think anavar only cycles are very good for beginners ?

GOAL: to gain a decent amount of size & strength, (with minimal sides) and keep the b,f down.

im asking these questions as i am 23 and do want full use of my pecker when it comes to the ladies !!

cheers everyone :]

Hello, hillbill. If I read this correct you are wanting to add body mass without any side effects. The best thing to do is look at your diet. How is your diet looking currently, give some feedback? You can take all the stuff you want to grow for today but tomorrow it will be all gone without the proper diet.

**hillbill78** · 01-02-2011, 06:27 AM

my diet is pretty good tbh
getting my main protein sources from, eggs,chicken,lean red meats,fish,and protein shakes.
carbs are mainly,oats,brown rice,potatoes(mainly sweet),sometimes pastas,bananas,peanut butter
i eat every2 hours sometimes i might not eat for 3 but thats a max. each meal i am getting in a good 30-40g protein, with equall carbs or more.
at the moment i am training 4 times a week giving my legs there own day.

**cro** · 01-02-2011, 07:29 AM

most people do a test only cycle 1st.

Originally Posted by hillbill78

so by the looks of things you have less chance of having long term damage if you just run anavar instead of test yea ?

**hillbill78** · 01-02-2011, 10:20 AM

i know most people do test as there first cycle
but as test shuts you down harder and has far more side effects to var does var have less sides in comparison to test yea long&short term ?
thanks again all :]

**MAC MAN** · 01-02-2011, 11:26 AM

If you want to bulk test will do this more than var. I would still push you to look into your diet because this will get you exactly what you are wanting. Gains with no sides. If Monday is your starting date good luck.

**hillbill78** · 01-02-2011, 01:00 PM

thanks to all so far
i think i might start a week from tomorow of just running anavar @60-80mg for 6-8 weeks and see how it goes.
new year new cycle

il keep updated and if anyone has any more advice on my upcoming cycle would still be very glad to hear from you. i am very tempted with taking test too as i have 20 amps of test enanthate but think i will try anavar first as like i said i want to try stay clear from side effects.
cheers all