Adding Proviron to test e cycle to harden up, is it worth it?

[phat_matt85]

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25 yrs old
205 lbs
5'10"
bf 12%

Im running 500mgs of test E ew, Im looking to harden up and someone on here suggested to use Proviron . I did some research on it and im still not too clear on it. Most people say that it helps their liblio, and few say that it really hardens u up.

If i dont go with Proviron im thinking either winny, but i will run that during summer. Tren but im kind of scared of the sides, or i might add EQ but im 3 weeks into my cycle

[terraj]

Bill Roberts words below, which I agree with having ran Proviron on Test cycles a couple of times.

It seems that the most common reason for many to consider including it in a steroid stack is for anti-estrogenic activity. In the days before anti-aromatases and the use of SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) such as Clomid and Nolvadex , there was some merit to this. An amount of aromatizing steroid marginally over the amount that would be tolerable without Proviron became tolerable with the inclusion of it.

However, the effect is indeed only marginal, and much better anti-estrogenic agents now exist. When these are used, there is no need for Proviron as an anti-estrogen.

The mechanism by which it has some effectiveness in this regard is from binding weakly to the estrogen receptor without activating it, and to the aromatase enzyme. In the first case, this partially reduces the number of receptor sites momentarily available to bind estrogen, thus reducing estrogenic activity. In the second case, some fraction of aromatase molecules at any given moment are unavailable to bind and convert testosterone , their binding sites being occupied with mesterolone.

The second most common reason is probably to address a fear that libido might be lost without it. It is true that when added to normal androgen levels, Proviron has an androgenic effect that in many cases improves libido. However, most anabolic steroids also have this same property. In a steroid cycle, adding Proviron accomplishes nothing further. Or in the case of anabolic steroids such as nandrolone (Deca ) which for other reasons may adversely affect libido, Proviron provides no greater help against that than do various other anabolic steroids.

One of the interesting things about Proviron is that while it assays (tests) as being an effective anabolic in the rat, it is virtually useless for building muscle in man. This may be due to enhanced conversion in muscle tissue to the diol, but it may instead be due to some unknown reason.

Another interesting thing is that it enjoys some practical use as a pro-sexual agent inbetween cycles. Typically 50 mg is taken shortly before improved performance is expected to be useful.

Contrary to common belief, Proviron is somewhat inhibitory of the HPTA. Using it during the recovery phase as part of post-cycle therapy is counterproductive. It is also inadvisable for this reason to use it continuously while intending to be off-cycle, but occasional recreational use presents no problem.

[phat_matt85]

Thanks for the post, so far i dont have a liblio problem. Im still debating if this is worth getting it.