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    How does this look?

    Hi guys- read lots of posts on here as well as stickies so without further ado - my stats:

    27, male, 5'11, 10% body fat, 14 years training, 195lbs, very solid diet 3000 Cals 250-300 protein, and 600 carbs per day. I alternate between 2 day power-lift splits and 4 or 5 day isolation HIT routines every few months and have managed to build great strength and solid gains. I am able to bench 315, squat about 365, and dead-lift 455 so my working rep range is over a couple of plates on everything- but I am looking to break some plateaus-

    SO how does this look?

    -test 500mg/week (10 weeks)
    -hcg week 4 to 12, 2x250ui/week
    -Nolva on hand just in case
    -start PCT 14 days after last pin Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20/20

    Not looking to gain 50 lbs or anything- would be cool to put on 10 after cycle- and add 20-30 pounds to all my working sets.

    Should I run aromasin 10 mg eod weeks 4-12 as well?
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    looks good for basic bread and butter cycle. i would up the test to 12 weeks (personal preference). aromasin shouldnt be needed during the cycle unless gyno flares up that cant be controlled with nolva. if you run both nolva and aromasin unnecessarily, it will hinder your gains.

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    would it be better to run aromasin ? and.. as per your suggestion:

    -test 500mg/week (12 weeks)
    -hcg week 4 to 14, 2x250ui/week
    -Nolva on hand just in case
    -start PCT 14 days after last pin Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20

    It would then be a good idea to extend hcg use for another couple of weeks if on test for 12 rather than 10 weeks?
    Last edited by Panamera; 02-20-2011 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamera View Post
    would it be better to run aromasin ?
    for your cycle i would keep the nolva on hand and use if you feel any estrogen related symptoms. When I run 500mgs test only I never used anything for estrogen, only kept on hand in case i needed. aromasin is a aromatase inhibitor and is more effective than nolva generally speaking. keep both on hand if needed and feel it out as you progress through cycle.

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    ok cool. well I will run HCG while on and just keep nolva around in case of estro sides- -from what I read running aromasin or Ldex while on cycle will generally prevent gyno symptoms, but if using nolva for flareups it is better to use aromasin as ldex interferes with nolva. I think I will keep aromasin on hand as well.

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    good luck. arimidex doesnt interfere with nolva. The differences between them is that nolva is a SERM and arimidex and aromasin are AIs.

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    How much do you weigh

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    oops I am sorry- 195. will edit.

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    and... after more reading revised cycle:


    Test E 500 mg per week week 1-10
    Aromasin 10mg EOD week 4-12 (End 4 days prior to PCT)
    HCG 2x250 iu/week Week 4-12 (End 4 days prior to PCT)
    Nolva on hand

    Week 12-16
    clomid 100/100/50/50
    nolva 40/40/20/20

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    man i would run aromasin from start to finish .ive never been much 4 surprises. 12.5 mg eod.

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    From my readings it looks very wise to do this. I think I will take the more cautious route and run aromasin as well.

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