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  1. #41
    Fetch is offline Member
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    Yes, that is normal. Here is what happens...
    You take steroids . You are injecting hormones into your body. This causes your body to stop producing them naturally. When you stop injecting the steroids, it takes awhile for your body to start producing naturally again. You are 'shut down.' During this period, you experience lethargy, lack of appetite, cravings for carbs, possible depression, sexual issues, etc. This is when you take the Clomid and Nolvadex , they should help your body kickstart production of it's own hormones. Depending on how badly you were shut down, you could recover in a few weeks, a few months, or never fully. Since it was your first cycle, and assuming you were older than 24, I'd assume you will come back by the end of your PCT, which should be 4-6 weeks, but everyone is different.

    The only compounding issue is the different esters in the different substances you used. What happens is that the steroid is suspended in an oil, and it takes time to filter into your system. Because of this, you will have the steroid residual in your body for a period of time even after your last injection. If you are experiencing difficulty maintaining erection, I would guess you are low... but considering the fact that you were using Sust, which has one ester in particular that lasts a very long time, you are not ready for PCT quite yet. Typically, you need to wait 3 weeks from last injection of Sust to begin PCT. So wait another week.

    All of that said, here is my recommendation...
    Go to Ar-R at the top right of the page. Order Clomid and Tamox.
    3 weeks after your last injection of Sustanon , do the following-->

    Clomid weeks 1-2, 100mg/ day, weeks 3-4 50 mg/day
    Tamox weeks 1-2, 40 mg/day, weeks 3-4 20 mg/day

    If you are concerned about your inability to maintain an erection while your body recovers, you can also order Liquid Cialis from Ar-R. It works very well.

    After your PCT, go get bloodwork done. See if your Testosterone is back to normal. A few months down the road, get it checked again to make sure you haven't rebounded.

    Best of luck to you.

  2. #42
    Just Do It is offline Junior Member
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    Hi Fetch,

    Thank you so much for responding. I'm in major panic mode because this has never happened to me and it just happened out of no where last night. I ended up going to emergency cause I thought something was wrong with me...but because it wasn't an emergency, they didn't really tell me what they thought the problem was. It's not that I couldn't maintain an erection...I can't even get an erection period! It all of a sudden just happened last night out of no where.

    I'm going to my doctor today to see what he says. Do you think that's ok for me to go to the doctor and tell him exactly what I've been doing, and that I can't get an erection now?

    BTW, I'm 28 years old.

    My last pin of Sus, Tren and Winni was on Feb 22. So I need to wait until March 15 to start my PCT?

    Another member mentioned me doing this PCT, do you think this will work for me?

    Is it ok if I use this PCT instead:
    Nova: 40/40/20/20/20/20
    Clom: 50/50/50/50/50/50

    With the PCT, will I be able to have an erection again?

    Freakin' out.

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fetch View Post
    Yes, that is normal. Here is what happens...
    You take steroids . You are injecting hormones into your body. This causes your body to stop producing them naturally. When you stop injecting the steroids, it takes awhile for your body to start producing naturally again. You are 'shut down.' During this period, you experience lethargy, lack of appetite, cravings for carbs, possible depression, sexual issues, etc. This is when you take the Clomid and Nolvadex , they should help your body kickstart production of it's own hormones. Depending on how badly you were shut down, you could recover in a few weeks, a few months, or never fully. Since it was your first cycle, and assuming you were older than 24, I'd assume you will come back by the end of your PCT, which should be 4-6 weeks, but everyone is different.

    The only compounding issue is the different esters in the different substances you used. What happens is that the steroid is suspended in an oil, and it takes time to filter into your system. Because of this, you will have the steroid residual in your body for a period of time even after your last injection. If you are experiencing difficulty maintaining erection, I would guess you are low... but considering the fact that you were using Sust, which has one ester in particular that lasts a very long time, you are not ready for PCT quite yet. Typically, you need to wait 3 weeks from last injection of Sust to begin PCT. So wait another week.

    All of that said, here is my recommendation...
    Go to Ar-R at the top right of the page. Order Clomid and Tamox.
    3 weeks after your last injection of Sustanon , do the following-->

    Clomid weeks 1-2, 100mg/ day, weeks 3-4 50 mg/day
    Tamox weeks 1-2, 40 mg/day, weeks 3-4 20 mg/day

    If you are concerned about your inability to maintain an erection while your body recovers, you can also order Liquid Cialis from Ar-R. It works very well.

    After your PCT, go get bloodwork done. See if your Testosterone is back to normal. A few months down the road, get it checked again to make sure you haven't rebounded.

    Best of luck to you.
    Last edited by Just Do It; 03-08-2011 at 02:48 PM.

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    Fetch is offline Member
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    That PCT is fine. I would personally do 100/100 first two weeks of Clomid, though. Everyone has different preferences. Yes, many people go through a period where they cannot get an erection. That PCT should help you out. Chances are very good that you will recover.

    If you really want to see a doctor now, you should obviously do so. More than likely, he will order a blood test though, it will come back showing low testosterone , and he will refer you to an endocrinologist. The Endo will then put you on a similar regimen to what we have laid out, or if he's a dick, suggest TRT straight away. If I were in your shoes, I'd go through with my PCT as scheduled, then get the bloodwork done. Again, if you have a girlfriend or something and you are embarrased, I'd go ahead and order the Liquid Cialis from AR-R as well as the Clomid and Tamox. Take the Cialis while you wait for your natural levels to return to normal. About .3 mL of the AR-R Cia is about 7 mg, which is a good daily dose.

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    Just Do It is offline Junior Member
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    Hi Fetch,

    Can I ask why you suggest I do 100/100 of Clomid for the first two weeks, instead of doing 50/50/50/50/50/50 thru out?

    And yeah, you are totally right. I have no appetite, I'm tired, depression, and of course Mr. Happy not getting up. It's horrible. I just pray to G-d it comes back alive again!

    Thanks again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fetch View Post
    That PCT is fine. I would personally do 100/100 first two weeks of Clomid, though. Everyone has different preferences. Yes, many people go through a period where they cannot get an erection. That PCT should help you out. Chances are very good that you will recover.

    If you really want to see a doctor now, you should obviously do so. More than likely, he will order a blood test though, it will come back showing low testosterone, and he will refer you to an endocrinologist. The Endo will then put you on a similar regimen to what we have laid out, or if he's a dick, suggest TRT straight away. If I were in your shoes, I'd go through with my PCT as scheduled, then get the bloodwork done. Again, if you have a girlfriend or something and you are embarrased, I'd go ahead and order the Liquid Cialis from AR-R as well as the Clomid and Tamox. Take the Cialis while you wait for your natural levels to return to normal. About .3 mL of the AR-R Cia is about 7 mg, which is a good daily dose.
    Last edited by Just Do It; 03-09-2011 at 11:31 AM.

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