Getting too big?? advice please

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 09:32 AM

Hi, my first cycle, test prop.

age: 25

b/f:dont know but low (not fat not skinny)

training very hard naturally for 2 years

so i got some prop and wanted to get a good start so i figured i would pin 1ml every 36 hours (1.5 days) for the first week then 1ml eod. i have so for had 5ml this week.

ive just completed my first week and have gained 12 kg, im eating stacks and stacks and almost everything just evaporates in my stomach (meaning very little waste). I dont think my natural test has shut down yet cos my balls are still there, a little smaller but still bouncing and my sex drive is in overdrive.

Now my problem is that i dont really wanna get too much bigger i started at 92 kg and am 104kg now. How much water do yous think im holding and will this all be lost when i stop the cycle, should i stop the cycle soon becouse i really dont want my work mates to know that im using, dont want it to be obvious.

i have nolva and clomid also. what are your thoughts?

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by marcus006

Hi, my first cycle, test prop.

age: 25

b/f:dont know but low (not fat not skinny)

training very hard naturally for 2 years

so i got some prop and wanted to get a good start so i figured i would pin 1ml every 36 hours (1.5 days) for the first week then 1ml eod. i have so for had 5ml this week.

ive just completed my first week and have gained 12 kg, im eating stacks and stacks and almost everything just evaporates in my stomach (meaning very little waste). I dont think my natural test has shut down yet cos my balls are still there, a little smaller but still bouncing and my sex drive is in overdrive.

Now my problem is that i dont really wanna get too much bigger i started at 92 kg and am 104kg now. How much water do yous think im holding and will this all be lost when i stop the cycle, should i stop the cycle soon becouse i really dont want my work mates to know that im using, dont want it to be obvious.

i have nolva and clomid also. what are your thoughts?

dont waste ppl's time with lies

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2011, 09:46 AM

If you put on 5.5lbs in a week odds are it's a combination of muscle, fat and water. Dont know how much you have increased your calories since starting but if your carb consumption was low and is now high that could cause dramatic weight increase also to to glycogen levels being completely full.

If you are concerned about getting too big my advice would be to start monitoring your calories as opposed to eating "stacks and stacks of everything". Also, just cause your balls are still there doesnt mean you natural testosterone production isnt shut down.

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 09:49 AM

wtf, im srs bro, i have been training like a crazy for the last 2 years, so i guess all my receptors were yearning for it. by quads just wobble when i walk atm. its not so much lean muscle ive gained just mass.

im seriusly anaolic atm and can constantly feel myself twitching. im eating 4 x 400g cans of tuna every day 1 chicken and lots of whole grain pasta.

also the stuff i got was in a clear vial, no lable, so it could be animal grade or something, but the prop symptoms are all there:sore pinning spot, fast acting

im new to all this so i need serius advice. i think im holding a shit load of water, but dont know exactly how to determine just how much

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by marcus006

wtf, im srs bro, i have been training like a crazy for the last 2 years, so i guess all my receptors were yearning for it. by quads just wobble when i walk atm. its not so much lean muscle ive gained just mass.

im seriusly anaolic atm and can constantly feel myself twitching. im eating 4 x 400g cans of tuna every day 1 chicken and lots of whole grain pasta.

also the stuff i got was in a clear vial, no lable, so it could be animal grade or something, but the prop symptoms are all there:sore pinning spot, fast acting

im new to all this so i need serius advice. i think im holding a shit load of water, but dont know exactly how to determine just how much

man, no way have you put on 12kgs in one week, unless you've been eating concrete, you'd doing well to put that on by the end on a good cycle

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 09:53 AM

yes all this makes sense. my carb intake before the prop was low, and i upped it when i started the cycle. i dont know exactly how many calories im eating , im just constantly eating and watching that my stomach dosnt get big. i ride my bike to the gym every day so thats my cardio.

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2011, 09:54 AM

Do you even know what the stuff you are injecting is dosed at as far as MG/ML? Also, holding a shit load of water translates to, I am getting fat. I think you need to take a few huge steps backwards. It appears you have no idea how much you are using or how much you are eating. These things need to be planned out well in advance not one week into things.

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

man, no way have you put on 12kgs in one week, unless you've been eating concrete, you'd doing well to put that on by the end on a good cycle

dont bother answering if you have no reasonable input

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

Do you even know what the stuff you are injecting is dosed at as far as MG/ML? Also, holding a shit load of water translates to, I am getting fat. I think you need to take a few huge steps backwards. It appears you have no idea how much you are using or how much you are eating. These things need to be planned out well in advance not one week into things.

even still, he'd never get that weight gain in water/fat in a week, 26lbs?!

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2011, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

man, no way have you put on 12kgs in one week, unless you've been eating concrete, you'd doing well to put that on by the end on a good cycle

I can put on 5lbs in one day with a carb load, I dont think 5lbs in a week is out the question by any means. Had he said he put on 5lbs of muscle I would agree but 5lbs of bodyweight is relatively easy to do.

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by marcus006

dont bother answering if you have no reasonable input

dont tell lies then, you will get called out by ppl

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

I can put on 5lbs in one day with a carb load, I dont think 5lbs in a week is out the question by any means. Had he said he put on 5lbs of muscle I would agree but 5lbs of bodyweight is relatively easy to do.

jez, i could never gain that bad weight in a week even with a shitty diet

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2011, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

even still, he'd never get that weight gain in water/fat in a week, 26lbs?!

Shit, my bad, I thought it was 5lbs in a week not 26lbs. Retract.

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

I can put on 5lbs in one day with a carb load, I dont think 5lbs in a week is out the question by any means. Had he said he put on 5lbs of muscle I would agree but 5lbs of bodyweight is relatively easy to do.

he's claiming 26lbs for a week though

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

Shit, my bad, I thought it was 5lbs in a week not 26lbs. Retract.

lol, no prob, i was getting flabbergasted there lol

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 09:58 AM

its 100mg 1ml.

yeah ive never really bothered counting calories my whole time training, just tried to eat a high protein diet. but now im constantly hungry and just keep eating 50%protein 50%carbs. im gonna cut down on the carbs though

***FireGuy*** · 03-20-2011, 09:58 AM

I converted wrong, I stand corrected.

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 10:01 AM

was 92kg week ago
104kg now

its not lean muscle at all just mass

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 10:03 AM

i was the best natty at my gym, and a little gear and i just explode..i dont know what to say. but im not talking shit.

any way what do you think i should do about ending cycle early. i will do 1 more week then stop and pct..

**warlord_wang** · 03-20-2011, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

man, no way have you put on 12kgs in one week, unless you've been eating concrete,

lmao that made me spit out my milk

**warlord_wang** · 03-20-2011, 10:07 AM

post pictures man I want to see

**marcus006** · 03-20-2011, 10:12 AM

im going to the gym now i'll ba back in about 3 hours will post then

**ProEvoDanny** · 03-20-2011, 10:13 AM

that dick on your head musta been eating when you wernt looking

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 03-20-2011, 10:44 AM

curious to see pics. what dose of prop are you using?

bottom line is if you are happy with what's going on, keep it up. If you are not, then eat less. simple

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-20-2011, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by ProEvoDanny

that dick on your head musta been eating when you wernt looking

Top Drawer!

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 11:47 AM

lol, troll alert!!!!!!!! are some of you actually falling for this bs?!

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-20-2011, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

lol, troll alert!!!!!!!! are some of you actually falling for this bs?!

this coming from the guy with the most posts on this topic lol

**Far from massive** · 03-20-2011, 12:06 PM

The way I see it he is either lying or he is impacted (nasty) since he said that all the food evaporates meaning very little waste.

Either way he is full of s**t

**Vullfromsc** · 03-20-2011, 12:12 PM

26lbs in a week? maybe he ate a few pounds of cheese and hasn't taken a shit in 7 days

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-20-2011, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Vullfromsc

26lbs in a week? maybe he ate a few pounds of cheese and hasn't taken a shit in 7 days

it would have to be closer to 20ish pounds of cheese tho lol

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by LatissimusaurousRex

this coming from the guy with the most posts on this topic lol

what are you on about you clown? i was pointing out the crap. you're another troll anyhow

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-20-2011, 12:31 PM

Awwwwwww, don't take it to heart buddy!

Here ye go...

**dec11** · 03-20-2011, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by LatissimusaurousRex

Awwwwwww, don't take it to heart buddy!

Here ye go...

na thanks, any cream?

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-20-2011, 12:39 PM

sorry, I like to earn my relief

**Tigershark** · 03-20-2011, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by marcus006

dont bother answering if you have no reasonable input

Telling off a long term member who has given a lot of input to others is no way to make friends around here.

**schering** · 03-20-2011, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

The way I see it he is either lying or he is impacted (nasty) since he said that all the food evaporates meaning very little waste.

Either way he is full of s**t

THAT....... is some funny shit.

**smashingbox** · 03-20-2011, 06:52 PM

give the guy a break... he might be exaggerating or whatever, but no need to lampoon him for it.

Mate maybe you need a objective view of things, post before and after pics, state the exact length of your cycle so far and how many shots you have had... could be a lot of water retention, fat gain, etc. Have you taken any anti-est with it? 12kgs sounds like A LOT, nearly impossible and definitely impossible that it is all muscle. Lets seem some pics... the other thing is if you have done one week and put on 12kg and you are thinking of stopping because you dont want to get any bigger... what makes you think you wont lose it all 1 week after stopping? Especially if it is water weight gain. Anyways, pics will help people help you.

**bozlet** · 03-21-2011, 05:31 AM

why use want to see his pics so bad lol

**Pac Man** · 03-21-2011, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy

If you put on 5.5lbs in a week odds are it's a combination of muscle, fat and water. Dont know how much you have increased your calories since starting but if your carb consumption was low and is now high that could cause dramatic weight increase also to to glycogen levels being completely full.

If you are concerned about getting too big my advice would be to start monitoring your calories as opposed to eating "stacks and stacks of everything". Also, just cause your balls are still there doesnt mean you natural testosterone production isnt shut down.

Actually 12kg is 26lbs!

Edit, just seen you caught that.
Disregard

**dec11** · 03-21-2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by smashingbox

give the guy a break... he might be exaggerating or whatever, but no need to lampoon him for it.

Mate maybe you need a objective view of things, post before and after pics, state the exact length of your cycle so far and how many shots you have had... could be a lot of water retention, fat gain, etc. Have you taken any anti-est with it? 12kgs sounds like A LOT, nearly impossible and definitely impossible that it is all muscle. Lets seem some pics... the other thing is if you have done one week and put on 12kg and you are thinking of stopping because you dont want to get any bigger... what makes you think you wont lose it all 1 week after stopping? Especially if it is water weight gain. Anyways, pics will help people help you.

seems like alot? its impossible!! oh jesus, are actually believing this clown?! you couldnt gain tht much in a week even by eating at mcdonalds all day everyday. you do realise thts almost 2st?!