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    hey there

    hey guys/gals

    I`m 25,
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    76 kg (lost a lot of weight due to lack of time for working out)
    12% BF
    Been lifting for 3 years now, although the last year has been kind of shitty gym-wise.

    I`m a DVM and have access to all kinds of stuff.
    For some time now I'm tempted to try out steroids .... but meh... I really like the ladies and the ladies really like me. Having ED would be my biggest nightmare...

    I was thinking to inject myself with 250 mg of test e for 6-8 weeks and do a pct with tamoxifen , clomifen and maybe some HCG or GnRH to give a small impulse to my testes (I have shitloads of that... use them to synchronize the sexual cycle in cattle). I will also use hepatoprotective medicine during the cycle, have a proper diet and maybe take some diuretics from time to time to avoid water retention.
    Will such a low dose of testosterone enanthate have any negative effect on my libido or capability to have and maintain an erection?
    I know my medicine, I studied endocrinology 2 years in college but I want to know the opinions of people with experience, people who tried this before.

    thanks in advance.

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    you know when you introduce exogenous testosterone to your system you shut off the endogenous test (forgive my spelling). your labido will not suffer but on the contrary should inprove. however 6-8 weeks cycle with a long ester is not nearly long enough to experiance the full benifit, and 250mgs will only give you a bit more than you produce naturally at your age.

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    250mg of test e is more than 3x I produce naturally so I think it should do the trick.
    I've never used steroids before.

    Of course, I`ll do some bloodwork before I start injecting and two-three weeks after I stop... testosterone , FSH, LH. If test and/or LH is low I'll use some GnRH.

    Anyway, I`m interested more in the sexual behavior side-effects. Will it stun my libido and give me ED if I use it for such a short period?

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    500mg/week is your typical beginner Test cycle.

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    No you dont need 500mg test.My 1st cycle was 250.I did great.But everyone now thinks more is better.NOT.As far as a ED problem.Well some guys have loss of libdo coming off.Everone is different.But if you do a good pct you shoulnt have Ed problems.Just stay away from 19nors.They can cause problems.Good luck.

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    This is the PCT I want to use. Is it any good?

    Tamoxifen for 3 weeks - 20mg ED

    Clomid something like this:
    Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
    Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
    Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
    Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

    After that I`ll do some blood work. If test levels are too low I`ll use some GnRH.

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    Some facts about your cycle,

    1. Long estered gear such as Test E. and/or Sustanol are not good choices for 8 week cycles, as MBMETC tried to explain this to you above. Your best bet for test in an 8 week cycle is Test Prop 100 mg EOD injections. You won't need a secondary AAS for your first cycle. Moreover, Test E. has an half life of approx. 4-6 days, which is why it is not a great idea to shoot it once a week as opposed to twice a week at any rate. You should more research about AAS.

    2. Your PCT plan is a horrible one, no offense. Lack of a proper research is the reason for this, quite obviously. You want a see a sample of a solid PCT after an 8 week cycle, here it is:

    Clomid 100/100/50/50 ED
    Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20 ED
    HCG (See below for PCT use)

    3. Endos provide AAS users with valuable information as to why HCG should be employed throughout cycles and extented to PCT, as opposed to being approached as a mere PCT aid compound. Starting from the second week of your cycle, get HCG 250 i.u. injections E3D to maintain regular testicular functions throughout your cycle besides faster recovery later.

    4. Where is your anti-e? Surely Test Prop will aromatize less than Test E., which nonetheless does not mean that you will be all safe without employing a solid anti-e at right dosages. 0.5 gr of Arimidex EOD will mostly save you a whole a lot of estrogen related issues that you might suffer from otherwise.

    Do more research on the site about all of this.

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    Thanks guys for the advice.

    I always had mild acne, and if shit gets loose I`ll quit the cycle... don't want to mutilate myself... also my father is bald so I have high chances to lose my hair also if I do AAS. I alse had deaths from prostate cancer in my family, on my mother's side.
    Another question I have is if I have to quit the cycle say after 1 week must I do PCT? Even after 1 or 2 weeks?

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    please help ?

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    man you are little light for your height bro... I think you can get to 82/84 kg naturally... hit diet section...

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    I know I`m a bit light.
    I`m one of those people that gain weight hard and never puts on any fat.

    How about the PCT after 1 week?

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    PCT start time is merely determined by the biological life of the gear you have injected the last.

    For instance, let's say your last injection of AAS was Test E with an active life of 16 days. That means you wait until the 17th day to start your PCT.

    In the case of Test Prop, which is the most ideal gear alone for a first cycle IMO, you only wait for 3-4 days after your last injection since that's how long its active life is. This also means you wait much shorter to start PCT after short estered injections as oppposed to long estered ones, which is a good thing of course.

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    tesekkurler, Turkish Juicer.

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    another question guys...

    I have this in my pharmacy:

    Well, the 1500 IU vials ...
    But I'll use only 250 IU per injection. That means that after I reconstitute the vial (you people know I have to mix the solvent with the feeze-dried hormone) I'll have to throw away the rest of the 1250 IU... cause you can't store it. Theoretically you could store it in the fridge but I never reused it even in animals.
    Anyway, what do you guys usually do? Just throw away surplus HCG like that?
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    I'm going to give you some advice I hope you never forget, as I am going to be graduating in 2 years with my DVM as well. Do not take Equipose. I know you can easily obtain it, any vet can, but realize the consequences if your caught, it's not worth getting your liscense revoked for your life. Secondly, EQ is aarguably one of the worst anabolics, which would make sense if you paid attention in Microbiology & pathology class .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I'm going to give you some advice I hope you never forget, as I am going to be graduating in 2 years with my DVM as well. Do not take Equipose. I know you can easily obtain it, any vet can, but realize the consequences if your caught, it's not worth getting your liscense revoked for your life. Secondly, EQ is aarguably one of the worst anabolics, which would make sense if you paid attention in Microbiology & pathology class .
    I could not agree more. Equipose is sh*t. You would not believe the number of people around me who almost started a cycle with it and ended up being redirected by me to use Primobolan Depot instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I'm going to give you some advice I hope you never forget, as I am going to be graduating in 2 years with my DVM as well. Do not take Equipose. I know you can easily obtain it, any vet can, but realize the consequences if your caught, it's not worth getting your liscense revoked for your life. Secondly, EQ is aarguably one of the worst anabolics, which would make sense if you paid attention in Microbiology & pathology class .
    Yeah dude. I know. I never intended to inject eq.

    And about getting caught. That's why I asked about the Chorulon. I can buy that from the pharmaceutical depot at a very low price but I'll have "to use it" on fake patients that I note down in the hospital register in case of a control from the government.That's the only way I can sneak the Chorulon out. Control is very strict here in the EU. More patients means more taxes payed... that's why I can`t afford to waste Chorulon... even if I pay low prices for it, I pay quadruple in taxes.

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