Now I know Im going to get some shit for this thread
in reponse to the keepables gains thread, most people on two boards agreed with my stance(not saying its right), that you cannot keep hormonally induced gains
if you would like to argue that point with myself and many other, please reference this thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Keepable-Gains
but if that is the case, why not do oral only cycles?
i do understand they are harsh on the liver, but lets be honest, hormones arent the most forgiving drugs on various other aspects of health(bp,cholesterol, lipids, hpta, hairloss, gyno, etc)
and if your drinking, you probably shouldnt be doing a cycle to begin with
some say, you need to do too much of the drug to get any results. i disagree, 40mgs of dbol a day is the equivalent to 388mgs of test e(280/.72, ester weight of enanthate or cyp is aprox 28%), plenty for a first cycle
and some could argue that mg for mg, dbol is stronger than test
some say, well you can only do it for 6-8 weeks, which doesnt allow for quality gains. first off, your not going to keep them anyways.and in my experience(and what i commonly hear on these boards), most gains slow after week 7-8 anyways.
and something can be said for shorter cycles vs longer cycles in terms of the impact on the body's health and recovery. im not saying steroids are a dangerous drug per se, but we all know they alter the normal chemistry at which your body is designed to run at. and the longer you alter those levels, imo, the more you role the dice with side effects potentially becoming a real issue.
and most would agree that shorter cycles are easier to recover from
then theres the potential for mental dependence on these drugs. i personally know a couple of people that are addicted to them. guys that run test and dont even work out(they arent on trt), guys that wont workout unless they are on, and guys that just wont get off of them. just like any other drug, the more you do them, the higher the odds you can become addicted to them
i can understand why there is an arguement against oral only cycles in one aspect only, young kids wanting to do a cycle, but are too afraid to inject. but lets not kid ourselves, they have access to superdrol at any supplement store around or online, something i think is more harsh than dbol and anavar. whats worse, they have stacks of multiple orals that are non-aromatizing, which according to dr scally, are the worst ones you can take
i can agree with people that say dbol only is nothing compared to dbol + test, but i feel the same about test by itself, compared to test+deca
ive never understood the hate oral only cycles get
please feel free to post your opinions
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