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    First cycle questions.

    I am about to start my first cycle. I am 41 yrs old. Been lifting on and off for 15 years, but on steady for the last two. I am 170lbs and 15%bf. I am looking to cut and gaining a little size and strength would be nice. I am starting with anavar . what would be a good dosage/length of cycle? Also should I take the whole days dose at once, or spread it out? With food or alone? Any and all comments and advice are welcome. The post cycle therapy I have planned is Nolva and Clomid. any thoughts on that are also welcome.

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    May I ask how tall you are? Why have you chosen to go with no test? Are you on trt/hrt?

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    Test should be a base of any cycle bud.

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    At 170 and 15%BF, you should not be taking steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    At 170 and 15%BF, you should not be taking steroids.
    Ever hear of short people? We're not all 6 feet tall

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    sorry

    I am 5'7". As to the test, I wanted to start out w/ something that was low on the sides to see how my body responds. My plan is to do this cycle, then over the winter do a test prop cycle. I am still doing my research on the AIs and PST I would want to do for the Prop, but that is for another day. for now I am just trying to figure out the oxandrolone cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheenyx1 View Post
    I am 5'7". As to the test, I wanted to start out w/ something that was low on the sides to see how my body responds. My plan is to do this cycle, then over the winter do a test prop cycle. I am still doing my research on the AIs and PST I would want to do for the Prop, but that is for another day. for now I am just trying to figure out the oxandrolone cycle.
    Testosterone must be the base of every single cycle, no exceptions. When you take steroids you shut down your endocrine system, which is responsible for hormone release and regulation. You need synthetic Test to still be able to function.

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    Ok, from what I had read, anavar workes well as a cutting agent alone, but would add little or no muscle mass with minimal sides and is relatively easy on the hpta. I am ok w/ minimal size gains, as this is my first cycle, but I dont want to totally waist all the time, money, and effort I am putting in in the gym and dieting, not to mention hours and hours of research. I can hold off and get some prop to run with the anavar, but that will seriously throw off my timetable (I was hoping to get this in before the summer is over.) Does anyone have any support for an anavar only cycle if the goal is primarily to cut?

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    ok, took your advice. New plan is test prop at 50mg/ed for 8wks and anavar 50mg/ed for 8wks. Any thoughts?

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    Just re-read your original post. Your too light to cycle. Anything you gain will be quickly lost because of an inadequate diet. If you can't gain lean mass naturally it will be of no help taking anabolic compounds. HEad over to the diet section and post what a typical day would like for you, including stats and they will help you out. Also your proposed cycle isn't much better from your original post, you need to spend a lot of time researching as well. There are tons of information in the educational threads.

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    I respectfully disagree with you, Windex. At just 5'7" 170lbs is not too bad, though 15% is a bit high. That being said... One thing I totally agree with: OP, a trip to the diet forum never hurt anyone. And it is your diet and training program that will determine your results more than which test ester you choose or var vs. tbol.

    And I think 8 weeks of prop alone at 350 is great first cycle if you are in love with sticking yourself all the damn time. I personally hate shots. I did one run with prop because of all this talk about others loving it and that will be the last time I stick myself that much unless the test fairy starts leaving free prop under my pillow. Just like the fat burning abilities of var, I found the lesser bloat of prop (guessing that's why you chose it) to be insignificant. Enough of my running off on a tangent. Anyway, save the var for your 2nd.

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    Good info guys. Thank you. I am going to save the var and just run the prop. On a side note, anyone have any idea how long anavar stays good. I probably won't cycle again for about 6 mnths.

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