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    4wk On Cycle nothing!

    Aight peeps, im on my 4th wk of 600mg of Test E. I feel no different, no changes nothing except IM horny all the time LOL. I knw test e is a long ester so it may take sometime to get in my system. i figure 4 wks would be enough time. Im taking .25 liquidex e3d becuz of kinda high BF %. on a 1 ml dropper .5 is the same as .25 right?? also wondering if im running it to high maybe not getting enough estrogen or maybe to much?? Any info would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    Aight peeps, im on my 4th wk of 600mg of Test E. I feel no different, no changes nothing except IM horny all the time LOL. I knw test e is a long ester so it may take sometime to get in my system. i figure 4 wks would be enough time. Im taking .25 liquidex e3d becuz of kinda high BF %. on a 1 ml dropper .5 is the same as .25 right?? also wondering if im running it to high maybe not getting enough estrogen or maybe to much?? Any info would be great
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mer&highlight=
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    So you were advised not to cycle because of inadequate research and lack of a proper diet, but you still did it anyway ? Hope you don't get gyno due to you having 20% Bodyfat.Test E takes typically 4-6 weeks to kick in without frontloading, and it varies on an individual basis.

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    yeah i spotted that too windex. bad choice by the OP.

    you will get more sides then results mate.

    but its your call mate. either way i hope it works out well for ya. but you have been told by people whove been doing this for a LONG time

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    on thread says your 28 and then i seen 32. then when you registered you put 18. lol can you correct this?

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    Im taking .25 liquidex e3d becuz of kinda high BF %. on a 1 ml dropper .5 is the same as .25 right??

    .5 is the same as .25 ?

    No .5 is twice as much as .25....was this really a serious question?

    PS if you are getting sexual sides then either the test is real or someone sold you weed or ectasy as test....So the other effects should be just around the corner.

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    I personally feel to much is made of Bf. my Bf was at 22% on my first cycle but it was all in my waist. I think it all depends on the person. I'm on my third cycle now and I'm at 10%Bf.. a clean diet and cardiovascular plus AAS got me here. So IMO to put a stamp on everybody who has a higher Bf% isn't always correct. Jmo

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    it takes me at least 6 weeks to see any real noticable muscle gains when using test e.................
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    I always use cyp which is basically the same thing and I can feel it around week 3 but it doesnt really "kick" until about week 5 or 6 and by that I mean strength and size start to really pack on! wait it out a couple more weeks and if you dont feel anything then start to worry.

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    p.s make sure you eat enouph! steroids are no magic pill you wont grow unless you are taking in enouph cals and training hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mer&highlight=
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ook&highlight=
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...me!&highlight=
    etc

    So you were advised not to cycle because of inadequate research and lack of a proper diet, but you still did it anyway ? Hope you don't get gyno due to you having 20% Bodyfat.Test E takes typically 4-6 weeks to kick in without frontloading, and it varies on an individual basis.

    I am sick and tired of hearing this parroted bullshit.. if guys had to be 15% BF then there would not be a single power lifter in the world.. there is very little direct research to link the estrogen production to BF.. i would say if you are 25% BF or something.. than you should lose some weight.. but 20% is not ridiculous.. i have cycled at 22% and went down to 19-20% with no estrogen related sides.. so have TONS of my friends..

    to the OP.. are you sure your source is legit? you should have at least put on a bit of weight already..

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    Yep im 6 weeks into cycle and dropped 3 or 4 % bf lifting only, with a reasonable diet. No excessive sides except for slifhtly more sensitive nips

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    I am sick and tired of hearing this parroted bullshit.. if guys had to be 15% BF then there would not be a single power lifter in the world.. there is very little direct research to link the estrogen production to BF.. i would say if you are 25% BF or something.. than you should lose some weight.. but 20% is not ridiculous.. i have cycled at 22% and went down to 19-20% with no estrogen related sides.. so have TONS of my friends..

    to the OP.. are you sure your source is legit? you should have at least put on a bit of weight already..
    There are ER's in adipose tissue you know?

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    Thanks guys yea ive gained 4lbs in 4 wks. I can see a difference in my body. im leaning up ive gained 2inches on my arms already. I started talking to a dietian and she made the corections i need to my diet. My source is good . No sides to report so far. That was a serious question about the .25 an .5 math was never my strong subject. i take it i should drop the dosage down to the .2 on the dropper?? Am i correct? And for all the neg comments keep them too urself,if u dnt have any thing postive to say dnt say it Thanks for the positive feed guys

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    also uve never seen me post any age except for 28, have no reason to lie about my age

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    I am sick and tired of hearing this parroted bullshit.. if guys had to be 15% BF then there would not be a single power lifter in the world.. there is very little direct research to link the estrogen production to BF.. i would say if you are 25% BF or something.. than you should lose some weight.. but 20% is not ridiculous.. i have cycled at 22% and went down to 19-20% with no estrogen related sides.. so have TONS of my friends..

    to the OP.. are you sure your source is legit? you should have at least put on a bit of weight already..
    Not regarding steroids but ive always heard long before i was into juice that men with higher levels of bodyfat have higher estrogen levels.

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    ive heard that also , i knw a guy that was at 25 BF% start his cycle dropped down to 15% and looks like a stud. He had a decent diet not super. I guess he just got lucky!

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    Op my Liquidex is dosed at 1mg per ml. So yea, half a dropper eod or so depending on sensitivity should be good.

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    Math was never your strong point? This is basic math, please tell me you are not really a Ranger. You better have a grasp of how much of what you are injecting/injesting, one can really srew him/herslf up. How do you know you were injecting 600mg test a week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    Thanks guys yea ive gained 4lbs in 4 wks. I can see a difference in my body. im leaning up ive gained 2inches on my arms already. I started talking to a dietian and she made the corections i need to my diet. My source is good . No sides to report so far. That was a serious question about the .25 an .5 math was never my strong subject. i take it i should drop the dosage down to the .2 on the dropper?? Am i correct? And for all the neg comments keep them too urself,if u dnt have any thing postive to say dnt say it Thanks for the positive feed guys
    you have only gained 4lbs yet you have added two inches to your arm? it took me 5 years to go from 18-20in on my arms

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    When you post a question, you're going to get all types of repsonses. You cant tell the ppl that post stuff you dont want to hear to stop being "negative". Some of these folks are experienced and are referencing first hand knowledge. Take all your reponses and draw your own conclusion, whether you like the answer or not.

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    I knw what im injecting, says on vial 1ml=300mgs so i inject 2 mls a week sunday,wed. my arms where 16inches when i started there 18 now. my dex is same as urs bro, got it frm the ar-r guys. Im no longer enlist in the miltary.

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    Your diet is RETARDED and your wasting your money on gear without proper nutrition.

    "Meal 1: 4 slices of turkey bacon, and 1 slice of wheat toast"

    Are you kidding me bro?

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    well if you really did put 2 inches onto your arms in 4 weeks then obviously something is happening then.

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    Hey warren (JACKASS) read my post before u critize, ive started seeing a dietain so get ur s*** right before putting ur 2 cents in. This board is horriable about people not reading before posting. And i knw something going right im leaning up and putting on some size

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    Hey warren (JACKASS) read my post before u critize, ive started seeing a dietain so get ur s*** right before putting ur 2 cents in. This board is horriable about people not reading before posting. And i knw something going right im leaning up and putting on some size
    in that case Im going to call complete bullshit that you have put 2in on your arms in one month while only gaining 4lbs. you started this thread saying nothing happening yet you seem to be claiming allot is happening.

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    Army - loads of good advice here. You will always have many conflicting opinions. I love how oh so many are heros of AAS use and were in prime shape before starting - BS. I am big too, have been training for many years - hit a fatass 285lbs after back surgery and now sitting at 250 - I was 242lbs before my cycle started 2 weeks ago.

    All you can do is research each of the aas' individually and give it a try - you will see results. Some are stronger blends then others. I know of some ppl taking 200mg/ml cyp and getting more results then when they were on 300mg.

    If you are worried about sides, keep some AE and AI's on hand. Work hard, eat right and leave it all at the gym.

    Only you will know the results. Learn from it and adjust your second cycle for there.

    Good luck and keep us posted.

    PS - as far as the guns go, did you do an unpumped first measure? I started at 18" and today (2 weeks into 400mg cyp) I swear if I had measured they'd have been 19".

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    Oh and listen to Machine - he tells it straight.

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    Okay we have two, anyone else gaining 1/2" on their arms every week on a long esther? ...I must be doing something wrong.

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    The rule is about 1 inch for every 10-15lbs you gains which is a good rule for me because that about the rate at which my arms grow. With my current cycle I started at 180 and I am now about 193 and have added 1 full inch to my arms.

    2 inches in four week with only 4 pound gain? I dont know if I beleve that...2 inches is alot!! doesnt seem like alot but 2 inches on an arm is very noticable! you would prob have major stretch marks if your arms grew a full two inches in 4 weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    I am sick and tired of hearing this parroted bullshit.. if guys had to be 15% BF then there would not be a single power lifter in the world.. there is very little direct research to link the estrogen production to BF.. i would say if you are 25% BF or something.. than you should lose some weight.. but 20% is not ridiculous.. i have cycled at 22% and went down to 19-20% with no estrogen related sides.. so have TONS of my friends..

    to the OP.. are you sure your source is legit? you should have at least put on a bit of weight already..
    here ! here !

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916 View Post
    Your diet is RETARDED and your wasting your money on gear without proper nutrition.

    "Meal 1: 4 slices of turkey bacon, and 1 slice of wheat toast"

    Are you kidding me bro?
    This, what a joke


    And I call bs on high bf too
    I'm in the higher range(high teens,low 20s)but always lean up on cycle

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    Sitting around 17% bf right now and this is my third week on cycle. Majority of my fat is around the waist.

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