Post cycle, not recovering, TRT or not???????????????

[gymfu]

Hey guys, I'm almost three months out from my last cycle. I had blood work done about 5 weeks ago and test was down to 178. I just got results back from last week and it's even lower!

Needless to say this is not exceptable.

30yrs
2 cycles
225lbs
12-15 bf
5-11

Last cycle was sust and deca

[Windex]

Hey guys, I'm almost three months out from my last cycle. I had blood work done about 5 weeks ago and test was down to 178. I just got results back from last week and it's even lower!

Needless to say this is not exceptable.

30yrs
2 cycles
225lbs
12-15 bf
5-11

Last cycle was sust and deca

What PCT did you run ? How long was your cycle ? Did you run an AI and HCG ? What else was checked besides test, specifically - LH, Estradiol, T3, FSH, and Prolactin. Do you have any signs of gyno or are your nipples sore/sensitive ? What is the reference range for your test results ?

[gymfu]

What PCT did you run ? How long was your cycle ? Did you run an AI and HCG ? What else was checked besides test, specifically - LH, Estradiol, T3, FSH, and Prolactin. Do you have any signs of gyno or are your nipples sore/sensitive ? What is the reference range for your test results ?

PCT was clomid and nolva
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20

Cycle was 16 weeks stoped deca at week14

I used liquid stane for AI and yes HCG for the last month of injections and up to PCT

Tyroid was normal.
FSH and LH were both a little low

No signs of gyno.

Thanks

[Windex]

PCT was clomid and nolva
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20

Cycle was 16 weeks stoped deca at week14

I used liquid stane for AI and yes HCG for the last month of injections and up to PCT

Tyroid was normal.
FSH and LH were both a little low

No signs of gyno.

Thanks

Your PCT was inadequate in my opinion, something like this should have been run:

3. Aggressive PCT (shutdown for 16-52+ weeks)

wk 1-8 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED first 7 days)
wk 1-8 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days, 100mg/ED next 7 days)
*HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle, every 8-10 weeks take a 2-3 week break [E2/PgR])
*HCG should also be ramped to 500ius 14-21 days from PCT
*Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)

I'd message swifto and see what he recommends. I imagine he might say try 4 weeks of Tamo @ 20/20/10/10 and then get rechecked.

[Lemonada8]

Since all the precursors are low, HCG would also be a good idea. It mimics LH, so HCG can act like LH while your body prduces it.

One thing however, i love how much crap i get for a nolva only pct (provided HCG during cycle) and that its bad and etc...

but copied and pasted is basically the same thing. Swiftos aggressive pct was posted, IMO is a WORSE pct than the OP did.
Tore and tamox are essentially the same thing. So a nolva only PCT is bad... but a nolva/tore pct is ok? when nolva and tore and tamox all basically hit the same receptor (tore is a 2nd generation, so better sides but still same mechanism of action).
so the pasted 'aggressive' pct is pretty much the same as a nolva only pct.

how much HCG and how often did u do it during ur cycle?