Million dollar question about tren no one seems to know the answer to

[DRAMBRO]

if your TEST levels are fine

ur prolactin levels are fine


but ur libido and Ed are stilll occuring 6 months after PCT after a tren only cycle..


what is wrong with your body...any ideas how to treat it

[marcus300]

Have you had blood work done?

[DRAMBRO]

yes.....everything came back normal


DHT was low

eveything else...well in range

[amcon]

that is the thing with tren - can and will do damage...

tren is a great drug for growth - tren does damage...

i would guess that you blood preasure was very very high and you didnt know it - some kinda of damage was done


just a guess...

[cantbetouched]

That sucks man... the little blue pill i guess..

[DRAMBRO]

when u say damage...are u talkin about to my HTPA

is there anyway to diagnos this or treat this amcor??

[DRAMBRO]

viagra isnt an answer

[marcus300]

yes.....everything came back normal


DHT was low

eveything else...well in range

if your back to normal as pre cycle then the problem is in your head.

[amcon]

high blood presure (as i found out) can cause lots of issues, and if you had hi bp for a long time i can injure your liver,kidney - some times but not always it can injure your vessels - meaning that you can hold an errection or if you do it is for a short period of time.

this is just a guess - im not a doc but ... it is a good estimate if you have normal results on your blood test that there is other issues


i would ask tho what ? normal ? is - your test levels should 550 or more - just fyi - 800 wouldnt be tooo high.

so if a doc is telling you 250 is normal that is/could be your prob right now.

you reallly need to be seeing a endo doc... he would have the most knowlege in helping you with NoRmAl blood results...

[DRAMBRO]

test was 830

evetrything was perefect


my LH and FSH were kinda high when i did my bw but its probably a result of the clomid...am i right in sayin clomid would do this?

[DRAMBRO]

am i correct in saying that "FINA" dick is a result of either a test shutdown or high prolactin level...


also....do TREN and PROPECIA have any similairities..some ppl takin propecia complain about many of the sides im havin

[5x10]

test was 830

evetrything was perefect


my LH and FSH were kinda high when i did my bw but its probably a result of the clomid...am i right in sayin clomid would do this?

how long did you wai,t after clomid, to get a blood test?

[DRAMBRO]

how long did you wai,t after clomid, to get a blood test?

1 month

[Lemonada8]

hey, the more im looking although urs isnt a genetic deficiency, but the typical treatment for 5AR deficiency is High Androgen thereapy.

im assuming its type 2 cuz of ED issues but im lookin at both.

Maybe a test only cycle would do good, but I also can argue against it cuz u have high test levels and normally those with 5AR deficiency have low to low mid test levels.

[ThE DarK KnighT]

No offense, but kinda sounds like a personal problem. It may very well be psychological

[DRAMBRO]

def isnt personal dark knoight

my penis appears smaller and more flacid than it ever has
'
almoost appears dead....not sure what causes this

[DRAMBRO]

LEMONADA

i have anotehr endo appt on wed at 2pm

im gonna sugggest ur hypothesis and see what he says

see if he has anything he coudl prescribe to help

if not...gonna take matters into my own hands...do a 9 week cycle of test cyp....get morning woood, hard ons back etc and then come off it with agggressive pct and hope regain some of my normal sexual function

[Lemonada8]

9 weeks of test cyp would be a bad choice of ester. Too long for it to kick in, go with E or P and if only 9 weeks go with P.

be sure to do HCG ! and a good PCT. I think u did a good PCT last time, u messed up doin tren only :P

yea lemme know what he says, tell him im a medical student also so i have access to good info

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

forget total test, whats your free test

also, if it's dht deficiency, then proviron might be a temporary fix

[Noles12]

def isnt personal dark knoight

my penis appears smaller and more flacid than it ever has
'
almoost appears dead....not sure what causes this

What you said here tells me its all in your head

[amcon]

9 weeks of test cyp would be a bad choice of ester. Too long for it to kick in, go with E or P and if only 9 weeks go with P.

be sure to do HCG ! and a good PCT. I think u did a good PCT last time, u messed up doin tren only :P

yea lemme know what he says, tell him im a medical student also so i have access to good info

confused about test c not kicking in at 9 weeks??? of coarse it would 14 to 21 days - want the test to be absorbed quicker? take the prop (fast ester) with the test c or the test e - and you will get a quicker absorption rate from the longer esters more like 10 to 14 days....


my suggestion - just do the test c for 12 weeks then an normal pct... take some viagra to get the blood pumped in the penis - if it seems smaller - i would def get some blood in it druing your cycle as much as possible... ppl may not agree with me but!!! I AM MUCH THICKER - SAME LENGHT AFTER YEARS OF CYCLING... not 100% sure why - but i will say my guess is the thickness has come from steroids and constant blood flow to that part of the body...

[wmaousley]

Million Dollar question? More like a common sense type of question. Always use a Test Base while cycling and this will most likely not happen.

[slimshady01]

test was 830

evetrything was perefect


my LH and FSH were kinda high when i did my bw but its probably a result of the clomid...am i right in sayin clomid would do this?

What was your FREE TEST?

when i was 24 and on propecia My test level was 1000 but my free test was VERY LOW, this made it difficult for me to sustain an erection.

[slimshady01]

Million Dollar question? More like a common sense type of question. Always use a Test Base while cycling and this will most likely not happen.

That would be the case while on cycle but he is long done with his cycle and past PCT.

[darkcrayz]

LEMONADA

i have anotehr endo appt on wed at 2pm

im gonna sugggest ur hypothesis and see what he says

see if he has anything he coudl prescribe to help

if not...gonna take matters into my own hands...do a 9 week cycle of test cyp....get morning woood, hard ons back etc and then come off it with agggressive pct and hope regain some of my normal sexual function

keep us updated. curious to see what the mri/endo reveal.

[songdog]

Good luck bro hope things work out 4 u.

[yungone501]

What you said here tells me its all in your head

Mmm-hmm

[Flier]

What you said here tells me its all in your head

Why u say that Noles?

[Flier]

def isnt personal dark knoight

my penis appears smaller and more flacid than it ever has
'
almoost appears dead....not sure what causes this

Alpha receptors will do this.
Constrict the arteries around your soft tissue, causing your testicles and penis to shrink.
Happens under stressful conditions (which seems like u are) to protect your jewels from damage.
Alpha blockers will prevent this and your balls and penis will "drop".
Think one Alpha blocker med is called Sinefil (Europe)
Bring it up to your Endo, see what he says.

[Lemonada8]

lol, thats viagra.

sildenafil

[Flier]

lol, thats viagra.

sildenafil

Haha.....I´m mixing up my meeds.

It´s "Sinalfa"
Active ingrediens, "Terazosin"
....and it works.

[Noles12]

Why u say that Noles?

His lack of libido is not coming from his hormones because they have been tested and came out fine. His lack of libido and now thinking his penis has shrunk is just his mind messing with him. I can almost guarantee you his penis is no smaller now then it was before

[gymfu]

Diet plays a role in blood flow. Is your diet good? Also are you using any NO booster supplements?

[Lemonada8]

Haha.....I´m mixing up my meeds.

It´s "Sinalfa"
Active ingrediens, "Terazosin"
....and it works.

yea thats if its a prostate issue... but if not that actually can cause ED

[Flier]

yea thats if its a prostate issue... but if not that actually can cause ED

Yes, prostate, but also anxiety/adrenaline/stress related.
Under this condition, the testicles and penis will act as a turtles head and hide. And not only for short moments.
Could be due to a bad breakup, or stress a work over a long period of time.
The Alpha blockers will counteract this action, and let blood flow back into the one-eyed-monster.
People have successful been treated for ED with Sinalfa.
I have not seen where Sinalfa will cause ED.

[Flier]

His lack of libido is not coming from his hormones because they have been tested and came out fine. His lack of libido and now thinking his penis has shrunk is just his mind messing with him. I can almost guarantee you his penis is no smaller now then it was before

Hmm....
The penis is just soft tissue.
It´s flaccid size depends solely on the amount of blood flow to the penis, and the state of the restricting outflow weasels. All controlled by chemicals released by electrical signals from two hopefully healthy nervous systems.
If he is going through a stressful period in his life, his penis will most likely be smaller.
Ofcourse we´re talking flaccid here. Erect is erect, nothing will make it bigger except surgery, all the "bigger penis" meds. are all BS.

[DRAMBRO]

Hmm....
The penis is just soft tissue.
It´s flaccid size depends solely on the amount of blood flow to the penis, and the state of the restricting outflow weasels. All controlled by chemicals released by electrical signals from two hopefully healthy nervous systems.
If he is going through a stressful period in his life, his penis will most likely be smaller.
Ofcourse we´re talking flaccid here. Erect is erect, nothing will make it bigger except surgery, all the "bigger penis" meds. are all BS.

Total test 592 range 250 -1100
fre test 55.0 range 25 to 155

estradiol 61 RANGE13-54
shbg 57 RANGE 8-48

as u can see...my estradiol and shbg levels are outta range which may be the reason i feel "SHUT OFF" in terms of libido,,,does anyone familiar with hormones know if these ranges would make me unable to get a hard on

[Flier]

Total test 592 range 250 -1100
fre test 55.0 range 25 to 155

estradiol 61 RANGE13-54
shbg 57 RANGE 8-48

as u can see...my estradiol and shbg levels are outta range which may be the reason i feel "SHUT OFF" in terms of libido,,,does anyone familiar with hormones know if these ranges would make me unable to get a hard on

These values will not prevent a boner. And anybody on a cycle has much higher Estro levels than yours, and have boners.
You had lower Estro levels yourself on previous BW and still did not get a boner.
So this is not your problem.
WIth that said, your levels are still off and need to be fixed.
They are probe out of whack from your last PCT where u did not use an AI, maybe u had some Estro rebound.
CHeck your estro/SHBG again now, and if they are improving, do nothing, but if the same, then the easy fix is Aromasin . Only 5-10mg EOD is enough. Then do BW again.
Go to Boston Medical, make sure your nervous system and blood flow/vessels are working properly, they can both be damaged during an AAS cycle due to high BP, and simply growing muscle tissue pressuring nerves.

[DRAMBRO]

These values will not prevent a boner. And anybody on a cycle has much higher Estro levels than yours, and have boners.
You had lower Estro levels yourself on previous BW and still did not get a boner.
So this is not your problem.
WIth that said, your levels are still off and need to be fixed.
They are probe out of whack from your last PCT where u did not use an AI, maybe u had some Estro rebound.
CHeck your estro/SHBG again now, and if they are improving, do nothing, but if the same, then the easy fix is Aromasin . Only 5-10mg EOD is enough. Then do BW again.
Go to Boston Medical, make sure your nervous system and blood flow/vessels are working properly, they can both be damaged during an AAS cycle due to high BP, and simply growing muscle tissue pressuring nerves.

i hear what ur sayin but like ive said before...my girl will go down on me...i can get a semi-erection...its just not gettin "Rock hard"

think Lemonada has the right guess on what it is...My dht levels also came back low

DHT controls bonor quality.lol

[Flier]

i hear what ur sayin but like ive said before...my girl will go down on me...i can get a semi-erection...its just not gettin "Rock hard"

think Lemonada has the right guess on what it is...My dht levels also came back low

DHT controls bonor quality.lol

Doesn´t control, but is one out of many contributing factors.
A ghost imo, but by all means, check it out