Beginner starting on steroids, Need some questions answering?? THANKS ALOT!!

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 09:48 AM

Hey, av been doing alot of research on steriod cycles and PCT...

Am just wondering how long the PCT should last once started, if it should last just aslong as my steroid cycle, because some site states i should only be taking the tablets for 22 days once my recovery period has started, changing the dossage throught out... the tablets are Clomid and Nolvadex all tho i have not purchased these yet..

Also am a little confused about HCG whether to take it or not, as some PCT i have read dont involve it, and on some forums ppl state that you should?...

Thanks Alot, hope to have some helpful info soon..

Cheers DKB88

**gixxerboy1** · 06-19-2011, 10:06 AM

what are your stats and cycle

**Far from massive** · 06-19-2011, 10:11 AM

Take HCG (250IU's 2 time a week) on cycle, not after, to prevent atrophy as opposed to trying to ressurect them after atropy.

As to PCT usually its run for 30 days onn most short single compound cycles. PCT is started after the compound used has had time to leave the body for example with Test P its only 2-3 days but with Cyp its 14-18 days. Also Torem is a good substitute for the 1st gen Serms with a lot less sides, so there are a lot of variables and a lot to learn.

Go to the PCT section and read the thread with about 600 replies started by "Swifto" the beginning of the thread lays out good guidlines for most cycles and the author "Swifto" is a real sharp guy.

FFM

Gixxer, just saw your post after posting mine, was typing it while you posted. Not trying to step on anyones toes, excellent question as to stats/cycle.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-19-2011, 10:14 AM

lol no problem

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 10:15 AM

I have Sustanon 250... i havent started the cycle as yet trying to get as much info as possible, possibly do a 5 week cycle seems its my first time.

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 10:17 AM

thanks alot massive i will check now

**gixxerboy1** · 06-19-2011, 10:18 AM

what is your stats? And a 5 week cycle of sust isnt a good cycle choice

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

what is your stats? And a 5 week cycle of sust in a good cycle choice

Am not quiet sure what you mean by my stats?
Sorry if am being abit of an inconvenience, but your help is greatful..

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 10:28 AM

quite**

**gixxerboy1** · 06-19-2011, 10:30 AM

age? height? weight? bf%? training experience

your no inconvenience. But we can give better advice if we know more details

**DKB88** · 06-19-2011, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

age? height? weight? bf%? training experience

your no inconvenience. But we can give better advice if we know more details

Age: 22
Height: 6ft 2''
Weight: 10st 10lbs
BF%: N/A atm
Training: 5year (on and off), (got plenty of knowledge on exercise routines and techniques)

**PK-V** · 06-19-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by DKB88

Age: 22
Height: 6ft 2''
Weight: 10st 10lbs
BF%: N/A atm
Training: 5year (on and off), (got plenty of knowledge on exercise routines and techniques)

inb4

**PitMaster** · 06-19-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

what is your stats? And a 5 week cycle of sust in a good cycle choice

I have gear in hand, haven't started yet. I have 4 wks of sust and 4 weeks of dbol and someone else on here has told me the gains wouldn't be much and I wouldn't retain jack afterwards. I got the cycle stack off a sticky from bodybuildingpro. So now I've put things on hold for some more answers.

**yungone501** · 06-19-2011, 09:39 PM

Youre way too young, too light and too uneducated. Stop everything youre doing (or thinking about doing) and start eating right and researching More.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by PitMaster

I have gear in hand, haven't started yet. I have 4 wks of sust and 4 weeks of dbol and someone else on here has told me the gains wouldn't be much and I wouldn't retain jack afterwards. I got the cycle stack off a sticky from bodybuildingpro. So now I've put things on hold for some more answers.

yes thats a crap cycle

**PitMaster** · 06-20-2011, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

yes thats a crap cycle

So 5 weeks of sust by itself is much better than 4 weeks of sust w/dbol ? And why are things like this posted for beginners?
TWO (2) SAMPLE STACKS FOR THE NEWBIE
Back To Top

Sample Stack #1

Weeks 1-10: 500mL Testosterone Enanthate WEEKLY

Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno.

Post Cycle Therapy

Clomid therapy three weeks after last sust350 shot ran as follows:

Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

Weeks 1-4: Sustanon 250 Shot either every other day (1/2 mL) or 1mL twice weekely on either Sunday / Wednesday or Monday / Thursday.

Weeks 1-4: Dbol (20-25mg)

Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno. Alternatively, you can run 10mg daily throughout your cycle.

Post Cycle Therapy

Clomid therapy three weeks after last sust350 shot ran as follows:

Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2011, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by PitMaster

So 5 weeks of sust by itself is much better than 4 weeks of sust w/dbol ? And why are things like this posted for beginners?
TWO (2) SAMPLE STACKS FOR THE NEWBIE
Back To Top

Sample Stack #1

Weeks 1-10: 500mL Testosterone Enanthate WEEKLY

Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno.

Post Cycle Therapy

Clomid therapy three weeks after last sust350 shot ran as follows:

Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

Weeks 1-4: Sustanon 250 Shot either every other day (1/2 mL) or 1mL twice weekely on either Sunday / Wednesday or Monday / Thursday.

Weeks 1-4: Dbol (20-25mg)

Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno. Alternatively, you can run 10mg daily throughout your cycle.

Post Cycle Therapy

Clomid therapy three weeks after last sust350 shot ran as follows:

Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

cant say, i didnt write it. But i see all other typo's in that so maybe the amount of weeks for sust was a typo also.

still doesnt change that cycle sucks as written

**PitMaster** · 06-20-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

cant say, i didnt write it. But i see all other typo's in that so maybe the amount of weeks for sust was a typo also.

still doesnt change that cycle sucks as written

The dbol /sust cycle what would you do to change it for the beginner? Add more weeks to the sust? 6-8?

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2011, 08:55 AM

the first cycle typed is fine. The pct timing is wrong though

**PitMaster** · 06-20-2011, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

the first cycle typed is fine. The pct timing is wrong though

I'm still learning so bare with me. One retains water and one doesn't. Is it cuz the prop in the sust and the dbol are both pretty fast acting and you don't need both. SO rule of thumb when stacking is One Test long term acting like enanthate with something like dbol for a jumpstart? And thanks much, I've had this shit for more than a week and haven't touched it, no small feat. The more I read the more I have to try to figure the good from bad, so thanks.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2011, 09:03 AM

yes the d-bol is really for a jump start. Also its not recommended to run more then 1 substance in a first cycle. Reason being if you start to have side effects or a reaction you will have no idea which substance may be causing it.

**PitMaster** · 06-20-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

yes the d-bol is really for a jump start. Also its not recommended to run more then 1 substance in a first cycle. Reason being if you start to have side effects or a reaction you will have no idea which substance may be causing it.

I did read that a test only for first cycle was a must and then on the same page I see this crap. Well I guess I gotta extend my sust cycle. Man....Thank you.