Thread: Equip or test
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06-26-2011, 04:16 PM #1
Equip or test
Hello all,
First up, my stats...
34 yo
6 foot (183cm)
183lbs
Training for 18 years (started at 140lbs). At the moment I am still completely natural
BF 12%
Training 4-6 days a week. Just finished strength phase, and moving in to hypertrophy, so using more supersets and keeping muscles under tension for longer periods to stimulate new growth.
I'd need a book to explain all the things with diet I have tried over 18 years. I recently tried Maro Pasqualie's recommendations (he wrote the anabolic solution for those who are unaware - good read!) using 4500 cals. I have tried 2500 calories to 4500 cals, all in different macronutrient combo's. At 34 and finding it very very hard to put on muscle I am now exploring other options.
I am currently doing my research in to my first cycle and would like experienced opinions on whether to use test E or Equipoise as a first cycle.
Originally, from reading reading reading, I understand that Test E used alone (with appropriate PCT) is the usual first choice as its a great start to see how the body responds. I don't want to put on a great deal of muscle in the long term, and with minimal water retention. I aim to put on a smaller amount (10lbs) of quality 'hard' muscle which is why I am steering towards equipoise.
So I guess from that info, is it ok to start with equip?Last edited by NotConvincedYet; 06-26-2011 at 04:29 PM.
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06-26-2011, 04:49 PM #2
You read correct that test only should be your first cycle.....you should never do a cycle that does not have test in it. If your looking for just around ten lbs i would say that you could do that with 300mg of test a week and an ai to prevent water retention if you happen to notice some
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06-26-2011, 05:24 PM #3
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06-26-2011, 05:39 PM #4
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06-26-2011, 08:31 PM #5
Definitely wouldnt start with eq. Not because it's not a decent compound *INSERT MARCUS HERE* but because it comes with allot of negative sides.
a 10 wk test only cycle is a good start. You could add some var in the end there is you're feeling froggy. I'm not too much of a stickler when telling people to use one compound only for their first cycle but I do believe you should start your first cycle with only one compound. By week 8 you'll know what sides your test is giving you.
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06-27-2011, 06:00 PM #6
Hey thanks guys. Pretty simple answer in the end!
Cheers for your help...
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