a guy at my gym is 14 years old and determined to do gear.

[Bigd89]

Little kids are meant to be seen, not heard.

Stop talking to him.

[MastaMan]

yeah cuz it would be so much better just to say "sorry brah. not giving u anything" then see this 20 years old roided up douchebag come at him "sup brah, still wanna do a dbol cycle?"

Im actually trying to save this lil guy. GTFO.

i respect your efforts bro! Somebody's gotta educate the dumbasses

[LolWuter]

Seriously this is what's wrong with misinformation now a days. Kids his age drink, smoke, and do drugs. Yes, at his age steroids are bad, but EMBELLISHING, lying, and exaggerating destroys your credibility and is an asshole thing to do. Just tell him to do his research and tell him that there is a big possibility for his endocrine system to shut down and give him problems like ED in the future. Tell him to wait 4 more years at least.

To the guy who said to tell him that steroids shrink your penis, what do you think juicers will look like after he tells everybody in school and now all the sudden, a whole school thinks that people who juice, like you, have small penises. I've encountered the small penis myth and it is just insane to spread this rumor. It's like the doctor on "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" said - Education is important but what you have to watch out for is EMBELLISHMENT.

Tell him that steroids are bad for his age and that you will not provide him with advice as it is immoral. That's it.

[Sulixe]

Updated:


He got his dbols from some random guy and he's started them today.

Im out of this shit. may god watch over him.

[Standby]

Little kids are meant to be seen, not heard.

Stop talking to him.

that sounds like serious pedo shit right there bigd lol you like seeing little kids?

[Standby]

Updated:


He got his dbols from some random guy and he's started them today.

Im out of this shit. may god watch over him.

get us some before and after pics.


stupid kid

[Shol'va]

If I caught you selling crap to my kid, fake or not, I'd stomp the living shit out of you... what the fuk is wrong with you? Are you a fukken moron or something?

........On second thought I'm stayin out of this one. But the temptation is so greeeat.....Nah I'm not going there.. No Really.. Serious.... somebody hold me back....

[Bigd89]

that sounds like serious pedo shit right there bigd lol you like seeing little kids?

Get your mind out of the gutter! Lol.

[PitMaster]

Condemn a man for trying to help a kid? Christ...

[ACE5HIGH]

Updated:


He got his dbols from some random guy and he's started them today.

Im out of this shit. may god watch over him.

Ah well nothing you coulda done anyway, hes not your responsibility... Obviously the kid must looks up to you so best thing you do Is continue to be truthful about the dangers of him using them. Maybe after 1 f-up he will listen next time someone older and respectable when they tell him its a bad idea...

[Shol'va]

Condemn a man for trying to help a kid? Christ...

I've had some 14 year old kids talk to me but usually every other sentence had a fvck you in it or kiss my azz cause I interrupted them as they were walking five deep down the isle at the mall and blocking everyone else from walking past them. Little disrespectful fvckers. I definitely don't want them on roids at that age...

[PitMaster]

I've had some 14 year old kids talk to me but usually every other sentence had a fvck you in it or kiss my azz cause I interrupted them as they were walking five deep down the isle at the mall and blocking everyone else from walking past them. Little disrespectful fvckers. I definitely don't want them on roids at that age...

I'm not saying I would go out of my way to talk to a 14 yr old kid. If I'm approached respectfully, I'd do my best to advise them. And your right most these kids are punks, not all.

[Honkey_Kong]

OP, here is what I think you should do. Mentor the kid and help him train right (naturally), but also I think you should dime him out to his dad. Parents should know if their kid is approaching people to use potentially dangerous drugs. His old man probably would give him a good enough beating for that, he'd forget about cycling for a good 11 years (at least mine would've).

[MastaMan]

OP, here is what I think you should do. Mentor the kid and help him train right (naturally), but also I think you should dime him out to his dad. Parents should know if their kid is approaching people to use potentially dangerous drugs. His old man probably would give him a good enough beating for that, he'd forget about cycling for a good 11 years (at least mine would've).

Who wants to mentor some dumbass like this kid! **** that. Tell him the truth, that he is damaging his natural testosterone production and what have you, but narking on him might be a bad idea, a little shithead like him might try to get you in to trouble.

[Honkey_Kong]

Who wants to mentor some dumbass like this kid! **** that. Tell him the truth, that he is damaging his natural testosterone production and what have you, but narking on him might be a bad idea, a little shithead like him might try to get you in to trouble.

He's just a kid, they need guidance. Telling that kid's dad what he's up to won't get you in trouble. I mean all you have to do is say you've never touched the shit. Besides these kids need their old mans to crack the shit out of them when they're up to no-good.

[Supertotal]

Seriously this is what's wrong with misinformation now a days. Kids his age drink, smoke, and do drugs. Yes, at his age steroids are bad, but EMBELLISHING, lying, and exaggerating destroys your credibility and is an asshole thing to do. Just tell him to do his research and tell him that there is a big possibility for his endocrine system to shut down and give him problems like ED in the future. Tell him to wait 4 more years at least.

To the guy who said to tell him that steroids shrink your penis, what do you think juicers will look like after he tells everybody in school and now all the sudden, a whole school thinks that people who juice, like you, have small penises. I've encountered the small penis myth and it is just insane to spread this rumor. It's like the doctor on "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" said - Education is important but what you have to watch out for is EMBELLISHMENT.

Tell him that steroids are bad for his age and that you will not provide him with advice as it is immoral. That's it.

It sounds like you would just have him do the stuff. The only difference between my way and your way is that my way has at least a slight chance of having an effect. No teenager I've come across in the last decade cares about his endocrine system. I'd wager that very few even know what it is. They certainly wouldn't care about what happens 4 years down the line, it might as well be 40 years to them. Immorality? you might as well bring up the 10 commandments in your argument.

Now personally, I just don't care. I am never short of amazed at how many teenagers and young guys at my gym are on something. Its all just more bleach in the gene pool.

One last point - do you really care what teenagers think about you? What a Hell that would be.

[MBMETC]

stay out of it op your setting yourself up to look real creepy when the shit hits the fan. although your intentions may be good it won't look good for you...he's a boy

[Flier]

Sulix...Ofcourse u´re not gonna sell fake gear or real gear to anyone.

But of course u´re gonna interact with this kid as much as u feel like, at the gym or outside the gym.
If this person is 20 or 12, girl or boy, as the caring human being u are, u will give this person all the time that u can afford, regardless of "how it may look like"
This kid is looking up to you. U have the body that this kid dreams about one day getting. And u will spend as much time as u can afford, between sets, or after your session, to coach him.
Other times, outside of the gym, kids of all ages will approach u for advise, just because u are older and wiser. And u will give these kids as much of your precious time u can spare.

As adults, we are all coaches, we´ve been there, and made mistakes ourselves, and it is our human duty to advise those who seek advise, so mistakes don´t repeat themselves unnecessary.
We don´t know where a kid is coming from, a broken home, alcoholic parent, abusive homes. At least there are someone out there who cares.

T those of u in this thread giving pedophile references....wtf is wrong with u??
Here Sulix is taking precious time off between sets to coach a 14 y old, and u see sexual relations.
That did not even get close to popping into my mind, but it did yours......(think about that one)

[MBMETC]

Sulix...Ofcourse u´re not gonna sell fake gear or real gear to anyone.

But of course u´re gonna interact with this kid as much as u feel like, at the gym or outside the gym.
If this person is 20 or 12, girl or boy, as the caring human being u are, u will give this person all the time that u can afford, regardless of "how it may look like"
This kid is looking up to you. U have the body that this kid dreams about one day getting. And u will spend as much time as u can afford, between sets, or after your session, to coach him.
Other times, outside of the gym, kids of all ages will approach u for advise, just because u are older and wiser. And u will give these kids as much of your precious time u can spare.

As adults, we are all coaches, we´ve been there, and made mistakes ourselves, and it is our human duty to advise those who seek advise, so mistakes don´t repeat themselves unnecessary.
We don´t know where a kid is coming from, a broken home, alcoholic parent, abusive homes. At least there are someone out there who cares.

T those of u in this thread giving pedophile references....wtf is wrong with u??
Here Sulix is taking precious time off between sets to coach a 14 y old, and u see sexual relations.
That did not even get close to popping into my mind, but it did yours......(think about that one)

I hear what you're saying but unfortunately we live in a sick society and as i stated even though intentions are genuine it may not be viewed as such.

[Shol'va]

If the kid is 14 and already searching then he isn't going to wait till he is 24 to do them. That isn't practical in his mind. And you tell him about his endocrine system as he has no idea how to spell it let alone know what it means. The kid is still trying to learn how to aim to pee with a morning boner and admiring his 2 new pubic hairs. So the best bet is to stay out of it completely and if he asks again just say no you don't know anyone and offer to explain why it's a bad idea at his age and let it go especially since you neither know him nor his family, and just hope he turns out ok.....

[LGM]

Keep the acquisitions coming.

lol just shut the fuk up, you've ruined the dudes thread already.

I think you meant "accusations". Because I don't think either of you is trying to acquire anything.

OP, I'd drop a dime on him to his parents. dbol at 14? good grief.

[Nicky843]

Sulix...Ofcourse u´re not gonna sell fake gear or real gear to anyone.

But of course u´re gonna interact with this kid as much as u feel like, at the gym or outside the gym.
If this person is 20 or 12, girl or boy, as the caring human being u are, u will give this person all the time that u can afford, regardless of "how it may look like"
This kid is looking up to you. U have the body that this kid dreams about one day getting. And u will spend as much time as u can afford, between sets, or after your session, to coach him.
Other times, outside of the gym, kids of all ages will approach u for advise, just because u are older and wiser. And u will give these kids as much of your precious time u can spare.

As adults, we are all coaches, we´ve been there, and made mistakes ourselves, and it is our human duty to advise those who seek advise, so mistakes don´t repeat themselves unnecessary.
We don´t know where a kid is coming from, a broken home, alcoholic parent, abusive homes. At least there are someone out there who cares.

T those of u in this thread giving pedophile references....wtf is wrong with u??
Here Sulix is taking precious time off between sets to coach a 14 y old, and u see sexual relations.
That did not even get close to popping into my mind, but it did yours......(think about that one)

great post rep given , finally some people with common sense.

[MastaMan]

stay out of it op your setting yourself up to look real creepy when the shit hits the fan. although your intentions may be good it won't look good for you...he's a boy

You've got it figured out

[Hazard]

If the kid is 14 and already searching then he isn't going to wait till he is 24 to do them. That isn't practical in his mind. And you tell him about his endocrine system as he has no idea how to spell it let alone know what it means. The kid is still trying to learn how to aim to pee with a morning boner and admiring his 2 new pubic hairs. So the best bet is to stay out of it completely and if he asks again just say no you don't know anyone and offer to explain why it's a bad idea at his age and let it go especially since you neither know him nor his family, and just hope he turns out ok.....

^^^^ this is the best post so far.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

I personally would let a manager at the gym know that he was asking for steroids ..... then I'd say I overheard him saying he got some form a member at the gym and felt responsible to let someone know. The gym manager can approach the parent and let the parent know.

If anyones TRUE intentions are to help this kid...... then you'd already have let the gym know about what he's doing. Helping someone isn't selling them fake gear, telling them lies, or looking the other way. It's doing what's in the best interest for the child. The BEST INTEREST right now would be to inform the parents one way or another.

~Haz~

[AMHF]

Cuz im not the kind of guy that snob younger/smaller people when i get approchaed and engaged in conversation at the gym.

RESPECT brother, yeah man just give him a nice advice

[Honkey_Kong]

I personally would let a manager at the gym know that he was asking for steroids ..... then I'd say I overheard him saying he got some form a member at the gym and felt responsible to let someone know. The gym manager can approach the parent and let the parent know.

If anyones TRUE intentions are to help this kid...... then you'd already have let the gym know about what he's doing. Helping someone isn't selling them fake gear, telling them lies, or looking the other way. It's doing what's in the best interest for the child. The BEST INTEREST right now would be to inform the parents one way or another.

~Haz~

I think your answer here is better than mine. And you're right, we as adults have a moral obligation to attempt to stop a child from doing something that can harm him. And I think his parents definitely need to know what he's up to.

[Fierce Play]

Perfect, let someone overhear the word penis during your conversation with a 14 year old...

lmfao...

tell him he runs the risks of ruining his height (no1 that age wants to be short for life), tell him it can cause cancer etc.

if he doesn't listen..he can do whatever the PHUCK he wanna do.

[lovbyts]

I hear what you're saying but unfortunately we live in a sick society and as i stated even though intentions are genuine it may not be viewed as such.

LOL, isnt that the truth. Most people are hypocrites that way. They tell you how you should mentor kids, try to keep them on the right track by being a big brother/sister or someone they can turn to but then if you are one of those people they automatically think you are up to something.

Sulixe do you know what the penalty is if you get caught selling him Fake gear? Same as if it was real... Not worth it, bad idea...

Best advice as someone said, tell him the truth. Even if he got it from someone else. Print out what it does to someone his age and hand it to him. Dont give him any encouragement to do them when he is older because all kids think they are old enough now for anything they want to do if it's OK later it's OK now. Make him understand the dangers or at least try. If he wont listen then it's not your problem.

I personally would let a manager at the gym know that he was asking for steroids ..... then I'd say I overheard him saying he got some form a member at the gym and felt responsible to let someone know. The gym manager can approach the parent and let the parent know.

If anyones TRUE intentions are to help this kid...... then you'd already have let the gym know about what he's doing. Helping someone isn't selling them fake gear, telling them lies, or looking the other way. It's doing what's in the best interest for the child. The BEST INTEREST right now would be to inform the parents one way or another.

~Haz~

Maybe the best advice yet.

[sublyminal]

I think Haz has the best solution of all. If he were my kid, I would sincerely appreciate you letting me know what's up. And as an adult, whether he's your kid or not, you're not snitching-you're actually helping by doing this.

Anyways, not to say I disagree with the premise that 14 is way too young, because it is, but I personally know only two people that were juicing that early-both of them earned athletic scholarships and got a 4-year degree free (regarding the monetary aspect), and both of them went on to become professional athletes.

I too believe that there are too many risks at that age, but with the right education, understanding, and mentoring a kid could conceivably change his life for the better by doing it smart at that age. With that said, if my son came to me at 14 wanting to juice, I'd punch him in the chest. Yea, he may never go pro in athletics, but he won't risk his life either....

[calstate23]

And he has no idea what's hes doing. hes been asking me for gear and advice.

Can i just sell him fake stuff for dirt cheap to buy time? if i don't other juicers of my gym will happily sell him strong things.

He wants to do dbol +winstrol . "to become buff and cut"

he's about 175 lbs 5'7 13% bf

[Flier]

I hear what you're saying but unfortunately we live in a sick society and as i stated even though intentions are genuine it may not be viewed as such.

And this is so true...
Couple of clicks on my PC and I have a map of all the predators (convicted) in my area. Looks like I´m being invaded......and that´s only the convicted ones.
Loving kids, and having raised a kid myself, I´ve had a lot of interaction with all ages. One on one tutoring at school, soccer coaching, sleepovers, roadtrips....
Just can´t imagine how pissed off I would be if anyone questioned my intentions.
My mind/intentions are pure, but as u state, I´m the only one who knows that.

[lovbyts]

And this is so true...
Couple of clicks on my PC and I have a map of all the predators (convicted) in my area. Looks like I´m being invaded......and that´s only the convicted ones.
Loving kids, and having raised a kid myself, I´ve had a lot of interaction with all ages. One on one tutoring at school, soccer coaching, sleepovers, roadtrips....
Just can´t imagine how pissed off I would be if anyone questioned my intentions.
My mind/intentions are pure, but as u state, I´m the only one who knows that.

You know what always amazed me? How many more kids DONT end up being molested due to parents who dont give a damn... I have raised my daughter since she was pretty much born and full time after her mother died when she was 2 1/2. It still boggles my mind how many parents would drop off their kids to come play at our house and sleep over since they where around 7+ and never even came in the house to meet me. My daughter would just tell me so and so is spending the night and yes it was OK with the parents. I would call to make sure but most of the time they didnt even ask anything, nothing and said yeah it was all good. No way I would ever do that. She is almost 18 now. Some of her friends I use to play taxi for growing up because the parents were to lazy to come pick them up and said they could walk 1/2 mile or more even at dusk. Strange people out there.

[wmaousley]

Dude, are you a pedophile? Because kids don't normally just shoot the shit with guys twice their age...

And you'd have to be out of your ****ing mind to so much as discuss AAS with a kid, let alone hook him up with something (even a placebo). His parents WILL find it, the kid will give you up in a second, and guess who they'll call the cops on?

I have never hung out with people my age, all my friends from the time I was in Junior High were 15+ years older than me. Now @ 29 most all my friends are in there late 40's or early 50's.

[BG]

You know what always amazed me? How many more kids DONT end up being molested due to parents who dont give a damn... I have raised my daughter since she was pretty much born and full time after her mother died when she was 2 1/2. It still boggles my mind how many parents would drop off their kids to come play at our house and sleep over since they where around 7+ and never even came in the house to meet me. My daughter would just tell me so and so is spending the night and yes it was OK with the parents. I would call to make sure but most of the time they didnt even ask anything, nothing and said yeah it was all good. No way I would ever do that. She is almost 18 now. Some of her friends I use to play taxi for growing up because the parents were to lazy to come pick them up and said they could walk 1/2 mile or more even at dusk. Strange people out there.

I agree and that sucks. I believe the way society is today plays a big role also. We work so much and focus so much energy on that the children of today get ripped off of parenting. People ask me why dont I have kids, I tell them I cant afford it. they say well we cant either but we make it work.....what leaving their kids with people they hardly know? Letting them walk home in the dark? Not spending much time at all with them. The way schools are understaffed and over populated (around her with illegal spanish immagrants) they arent getting attention they used to there either.....and thats what parents I believe are counting to much on.

My neighbor watches kids because she is to fat to leave the house and have a normal job. Her kids are fuc'n derelicts, I almost punched one a few months ago and I still might when he turns 18. How the fuc can she watch other peoples kids when she cant bring up her own? Its unreal....

[Flier]

You know what always amazed me? How many more kids DONT end up being molested due to parents who dont give a damn... I have raised my daughter since she was pretty much born and full time after her mother died when she was 2 1/2. It still boggles my mind how many parents would drop off their kids to come play at our house and sleep over since they where around 7+ and never even came in the house to meet me. My daughter would just tell me so and so is spending the night and yes it was OK with the parents. I would call to make sure but most of the time they didnt even ask anything, nothing and said yeah it was all good. No way I would ever do that. She is almost 18 now. Some of her friends I use to play taxi for growing up because the parents were to lazy to come pick them up and said they could walk 1/2 mile or more even at dusk. Strange people out there.

Haha...exactly the same scenario for me. Single Dad of a girls since she was 6. Kids sleeping over who's parents I´ve never met. I really appreciate the trust, but like u say, maybe some parents don´t give a fvck.
And I had to be careful sometimes......I had a cool, huge master bedroom in my house with a 50" Plasma, big Jacuzzi etc, and we used to lay in my bed watch a movie, and snack. Sometimes the girls would fall asleep, and I had this feeling because of people´s perceptions, I should not fall asleep there myself...hehe.
I remember the thought pissed me off, again, because my mind is pure.....but imagine how that one could be turned against me....scary. (MJ..)

[calstate23]

Haha...exactly the same scenario for me. Single Dad of a girls since she was 6. Kids sleeping over who's parents I´ve never met. I really appreciate the trust, but like u say, maybe some parents don´t give a fvck.
And I had to be careful sometimes......I had a cool, huge master bedroom in my house with a 50" Plasma, big Jacuzzi etc, and we used to lay in my bed watch a movie, and snack. Sometimes the girls would fall asleep, and I had this feeling because of people´s perceptions, I should not fall asleep there myself...hehe.
I remember the thought pissed me off, again, because my mind is pure.....but imagine how that one could be turned against me....scary. (MJ..)

Yeah I wouldn't do that......I'm sure you're intentions are good like you said but for me personally I would never ever do anything that would even cause people to second guess my intentions....Imagine what happens when one of the parents asked their little girl, "So what did you guys do"? She says, we watched movies in her dads huge room and we ate and watched movies on his bed and then fell asleep....If I heard that from my little girl I would be pissed as hell...Sounds weird man.

Good Luck

[Flier]

Yeah I wouldn't do that......I'm sure you're intentions are good like you said but for me personally I would never ever do anything that would even cause people to second guess my intentions....Imagine what happens when one of the parents asked their little girl, "So what did you guys do"? She says, we watched movies in her dads huge room and we ate and watched movies on his bed and then fell asleep....If I heard that from my little girl I would be pissed as hell...Sounds weird man.

Good Luck

I hear ya....
But u know, this is also very cultural.
Maybe by the time I was 19, I have heard about 2 or 3 cases in my home country. Moving to the US at 19, I was shocked of the amount of sick fvcks over here.
Talked about it with my buddies, and it could be a variety of reasons why it is so.
One thing I noticed, is that the media over here like to scare the shit out of people, and blow things out of proportions.

A cultural difference: Moving to S. Florida, when my daughter was like 3-4, she was the only girl running around naked on the beach. I thought it was the stupidest thing to cover up a little child to go swimming. wtf...there is nothing there to cover up!
But I realized Americans get really worked up when it comes to nudity. The censorship here imo is ridiculous....can´t see a tit on TV. Where I came from, even commercials frequently has full nudity.
So the culture here conditions the people to view nudity as weird.

Re. the OP. U think it´s weird to talk to a 14 year old, while I have, and can sit with men/boys of all ages naked in the sauna.
U guys maybe think we sit and look at each other wieners...lol
Cultural differences.

[5x10]

maybe his parents could get a "tip"

nom sayin?

[lovbyts]

Haha...exactly the same scenario for me. Single Dad of a girls since she was 6. Kids sleeping over who's parents I´ve never met. I really appreciate the trust, but like u say, maybe some parents don´t give a fvck.
And I had to be careful sometimes......I had a cool, huge master bedroom in my house with a 50" Plasma, big Jacuzzi etc, and we used to lay in my bed watch a movie, and snack. Sometimes the girls would fall asleep, and I had this feeling because of people´s perceptions, I should not fall asleep there myself...hehe.
I remember the thought pissed me off, again, because my mind is pure.....but imagine how that one could be turned against me....scary. (MJ..)

LOL, again I think we are brothers from another dimension. My hot-tub is off my bedroom. The kids loved to spend hours in it then come into the master bathroom to play in the large jacuzzi tub with bubbles I would have to clean up later and watch movies in my room on the big-screen even though we had a bigger tv in the living area and a full 110" projection in the TV room. I spent several nights on the couch. LOL Yeah you don't want to get accused of being another MJ.

Still to this days some of the kids come to talk to me and say they wish they had a dad like me they could talk to. I try to walk a fine like of being a friend/parent. They know they can not ask me to do anything questionable, no buying beer, cigarettes etc. but they can tell me they went to a party, need a ride home from a party because the driver is drunk etc without any problems.

It was funny, one of the girls I had known for years, been over many times I had not meet her parents until less than 2 years ago. I gave her and her friend a ride home from school; it was on my way. When we got there her step mom was outside. She introduced us; Mom, this is Paul, he gets me and Kristina from school sometimes. Mom:??????? I LOL and said The other Kristina? that's my daughter, one of her friends. The mom say OK.... Funny how kids say things sometime.

Re. the OP. U think it´s weird to talk to a 14 year old, while I have, and can sit with men/boys of all ages naked in the sauna.
U guys maybe think we sit and look at each other wieners...lol
Cultural differences.

Many people; even here can not wrap their heads around idea of cultural differences. They believe the whole world should be, should follow the same laws, rules, regulations and where they are from. They have enough problem from state to state let alone try visiting another country.