Test, EQ and Dbol for 14 weeks, tips?

**tsjca213** · 05-09-2010, 08:31 AM

Week 1 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 2 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 3 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 4 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 5 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 6 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg ? - Nolva 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week ?
Week 7 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg ? - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 300 mg ? - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 9 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 10 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 11 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 12 Test 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week ?
Week 13 Test 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 14 Test 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 15 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?
Week 16 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?
Week 17 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?
Week 18 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?
Week 19 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?
Week 20 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed ?

TOTALS
Test: 9,800 mg
Eq: 6,000 mg
Dianabol : 1,500-2,400 mg
Nolvadex: 1,960 mg
HCG: 15,000 iu
Clomid: 2,100 mg

Everything in the cycle has a reason, please do not sugest that i should run an anavar cycle instead or something similar. However if you have opinions or sugestions regarding the cycle or pct, length, dosage, combinations, transistions or spesific blood testing I would very much appreciate it.

I've been training for 4 years, both martial arts and bodybuilding which is my main focus as of now. I weigh 200 pounds, I want to maintain my 10,5% bodyfat during the cycle. I have done three cycles in the past with test, tren , dbol, masteron , winstrol and i have only used nolvadex for pct. In my opinion none of my cycles were well planned, and I think i could benefit alot from making a good planned out cycle in advance with a solid pct.

I do not use HGH or IGF or SLIN, if anyone think it would be very beneficial to include any or more of these, please let me know.

Nolvadex during cycle is to prevent gyno, it has proven it's worth for me in the past, therefore I choose to continue taking it.
Test and EQ are kept high because i consider that both perform alot better when they are at this dosage.
I am not certain whether to use the dianabol for 5 or 8 weeks, I might wait and see how things develop during the cycle unless anyone has an opinion concerning this matter. I am not sure about the type of testosterone yet, any sugestions?

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
Tobias

***D7M*** · 05-09-2010, 09:14 AM

5 weeks of dbol is plenty.

Test enth or cyp is fine.

What's your age? Height?

**N2Deep** · 05-09-2010, 09:14 AM

What test are you planning? That will determine what week to start your pct, I would double the clomid and nolva dose on the first week of your PCT. Stop the dbol at week 5 it gets risky on the liver past that. What is the daily dose on your dbol, it seems just a bit low for a week. Four weeks of PCT is plenty though.

**tsjca213** · 05-09-2010, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by N2Deep

What test are you planning? That will determine what week to start your pct, I would double the clomid and nolva dose on the first week of your PCT. Stop the dbol at week 5 it gets risky on the liver past that. What is the daily dose on your dbol, it seems just a bit low for a week. Four weeks of PCT is plenty though.

I have not chosen a test yet, i've had problems injecting too much at the same time, so propionate seems best for that matter but it's a pita to shoot that often, so i will probably go for enanthate .

The dbol is at 40 mg ed, do you think it should be higher? Any thoughts on how to cycle the injections, because i have trouble with shooting in both shoulders and calfs, i don't know why but i get alot of pain for many days. And i feel i'm out of control when injecting the glutes myself. So i'm left with thighs but i can't inject it all at the same time. I wonder how pro's handle their injections.

Originally Posted by D7M

5 weeks of dbol is plenty.

Test enth or cyp is fine.

What's your age? Height?

Ok, 5 weeks it will be. i'm 22 years young, 6'1 tall.

Updated cycle:

Week 1 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 2 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 3 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 4 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 5 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 6 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 7 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 9 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 10 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 11 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 12 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 13 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 14 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 15 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 40 mg ed - Clomid 100 mg ed
Week 16 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 17 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 18 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed

**N2Deep** · 05-09-2010, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by tsjca213

The dbol is at 40 mg ed, do you think it should be higher? Any thoughts on how to cycle the injections, because i have trouble with shooting in both shoulders and calfs, i don't know why but i get alot of pain for many days. And i feel i'm out of control when injecting the glutes myself. So i'm left with thighs but i can't inject it all at the same time. I wonder how pro's handle their injections.

Ok, 5 weeks it will be. i'm 22 years young, 6'1 tall.

Updated cycle:

Week 1 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 2 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 3 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 4 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 5 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 6 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 7 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 9 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 10 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 11 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 12 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 13 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 14 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 15 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 40 mg ed - Clomid 100 mg ed
Week 16 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 17 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 18 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed

You should run the EQ the same length of time as test E. Then your PCT should start 14 days after your last injection. All the dbol Ive seen has been in 50 mg per pill. I inject in my quads and delts they are the best for me.

**tsjca213** · 05-10-2010, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by N2Deep

You should run the EQ the same length of time as test E. Then your PCT should start 14 days after your last injection. All the dbol Ive seen has been in 50 mg per pill. I inject in my quads and delts they are the best for me.

Why do i have to wait to do the pct? Does my endogenous levels have to be rock bottom before i start the pct?

All the dianabol i've seen has come in 5 or 10 mg.

**stevey_6t9** · 05-10-2010, 02:50 AM

aaaa another EQ cycle, good waste of gear.

Anyway you havent given us your stats young man.

**tsjca213** · 05-10-2010, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

aaaa another EQ cycle, good waste of gear.

Anyway you havent given us your stats young man.

I've written that i'm 22 years young, 6'1, 200 pounds, 10,5% bodyfat and some cycle experience written over. Is there anything else you need to know to give advice?

I also wrote:
Everything in the cycle has a reason, please do not sugest that i should run an anavar cycle instead or something similar. However if you have opinions or sugestions regarding the cycle or pct, length, dosage, combinations, transistions or spesific blood testing I would very much appreciate it.

**tsjca213** · 05-10-2010, 05:00 AM

Updated cycle:

Week 1 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 2 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 3 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 4 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 5 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Dbol 40 mg ed - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 6 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 7 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 8 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolva 20 mg ed
Week 9 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 10 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 11 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 12 Test E 700 mg - Eq 500 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed - HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 13 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 14 Test E 700 mg - Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 15 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 40 mg ed - Clomid 100 mg ed
Week 16 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 17 HCG 1000 iu 3x week - Nolva 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 18 Nolvadex 20 mg ed - Clomid 50 mg ed

OR

Week 1-14 Test E 700 mg
Week 1-14 Equipose 500 mg
Week 1-5 Dianabol 40 mg ed
Week 1-18 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
Week 6,12,15,16,17 HCG 1000 iu 3x week
Week 15-18 Clomid 50 mg ed