Not happy with gains so far

**Chizzled** · 07-23-2011, 05:00 PM

I am 4 weeks into my prop/tbol cycle and my gains are minimal. This is my first cycle and I expected a lot more. I have only gained about 5 pounds so far and strenghth is up a bit. I ordered my gear from a very known source so I know its not bunk and I have been experiencing all the effects I hear of such as : appetite increase, libido is up, strength is up, overall better sense of well being, crazy pumps etc. I know my diet has been slacking because of the tbol effecting my stomach I haven't been eating as much as I would like. Even with as much as I am eating tho I should have gains more than 5 pounds by now right? I just don't get it? Could my prop be fake and I am just getting some results from the tbol? I would like to pm one of you vets my source and get your opinions. Thanks

**funkymonk** · 07-23-2011, 05:06 PM

You said it yourself, your diet is lacking. You can't create something from nothing (IE: mass from an absence of calories). Eat more.

**Matt** · 07-23-2011, 05:07 PM

Gear sounds ok to me mate and by your own admission looks like you diet maybe at fault....

But to be sure have bloods take...

**gixxerboy1** · 07-23-2011, 07:19 PM

how do you expect to gain with out food. if the tbol is bothering you that much drop it and run just the prop

**yungone501** · 07-23-2011, 10:01 PM

Ditch the tbol. Run test only.

**Chizzled** · 07-23-2011, 11:45 PM

Ya I wont take the tbol anymore. It has effected my diet a lot. Thanks for the responses. Also i got pre bw done and I am getting bw done next week and 6 weeks after my pct. Will post up the results.

**dec11** · 07-24-2011, 12:31 AM

im guessing diet at fault mate, you could be shooting grams worth of gear and without diet its useless. whats a typical day look like?

**FCVtec** · 07-24-2011, 10:46 AM

It became much easier for me to make sure I am getting enough calories just by getting one of those smart phone apps man.. I always thought I was eating a lot and when I started using one of those apps I found out I was only eating around 2500 cals a day... Since then I have re tuned my diet and now eating from 3200 - 3600 (clean diet not a load of junk) I was able to breaK my 190lb plateau and hit 200lb on cycle and even 3 weeks after getting off(today) I have only lost 2 pounds and still looking like I am keeping the size and staying lean. EAT MAN!

Check your source as well just in case.

**dec11** · 07-24-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by FCVtec

It became much easier for me to make sure I am getting enough calories just by getting one of those smart phone apps man.. I always thought I was eating a lot and when I started using one of those apps I found out I was only eating around 2500 cals a day... Since then I have re tuned my diet and now eating from 3200 - 3600 (clean diet not a load of junk) I was able to breaK my 190lb plateau and hit 200lb on cycle and even 3 weeks after getting off(today) I have only lost 2 pounds and still looking like I am keeping the size and staying lean. EAT MAN!

Check your source as well just in case.

yep, sources can get passed bunk gear also