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  1. 07-23-2011, 05:00 PM #1
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    Not happy with gains so far

    I am 4 weeks into my prop/tbol cycle and my gains are minimal. This is my first cycle and I expected a lot more. I have only gained about 5 pounds so far and strenghth is up a bit. I ordered my gear from a very known source so I know its not bunk and I have been experiencing all the effects I hear of such as : appetite increase, libido is up, strength is up, overall better sense of well being, crazy pumps etc. I know my diet has been slacking because of the tbol effecting my stomach I haven't been eating as much as I would like. Even with as much as I am eating tho I should have gains more than 5 pounds by now right? I just don't get it? Could my prop be fake and I am just getting some results from the tbol? I would like to pm one of you vets my source and get your opinions. Thanks
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  2. 07-23-2011, 05:06 PM #2
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    You said it yourself, your diet is lacking. You can't create something from nothing (IE: mass from an absence of calories). Eat more.
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  3. 07-23-2011, 05:07 PM #3
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    Gear sounds ok to me mate and by your own admission looks like you diet maybe at fault....

    But to be sure have bloods take...
    Do not ask me for a source check.





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  4. 07-23-2011, 07:19 PM #4
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    how do you expect to gain with out food. if the tbol is bothering you that much drop it and run just the prop
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  5. 07-23-2011, 10:01 PM #5
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    Ditch the tbol. Run test only.
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  6. 07-23-2011, 11:45 PM #6
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    Ya I wont take the tbol anymore. It has effected my diet a lot. Thanks for the responses. Also i got pre bw done and I am getting bw done next week and 6 weeks after my pct. Will post up the results.
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  7. 07-24-2011, 12:31 AM #7
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    im guessing diet at fault mate, you could be shooting grams worth of gear and without diet its useless. whats a typical day look like?
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  8. 07-24-2011, 10:46 AM #8
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    It became much easier for me to make sure I am getting enough calories just by getting one of those smart phone apps man.. I always thought I was eating a lot and when I started using one of those apps I found out I was only eating around 2500 cals a day... Since then I have re tuned my diet and now eating from 3200 - 3600 (clean diet not a load of junk) I was able to breaK my 190lb plateau and hit 200lb on cycle and even 3 weeks after getting off(today) I have only lost 2 pounds and still looking like I am keeping the size and staying lean. EAT MAN!

    Check your source as well just in case.
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  9. 07-24-2011, 12:07 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCVtec View Post
    It became much easier for me to make sure I am getting enough calories just by getting one of those smart phone apps man.. I always thought I was eating a lot and when I started using one of those apps I found out I was only eating around 2500 cals a day... Since then I have re tuned my diet and now eating from 3200 - 3600 (clean diet not a load of junk) I was able to breaK my 190lb plateau and hit 200lb on cycle and even 3 weeks after getting off(today) I have only lost 2 pounds and still looking like I am keeping the size and staying lean. EAT MAN!

    Check your source as well just in case.
    yep, sources can get passed bunk gear also
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  10. 07-26-2011, 10:41 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    yep, sources can get passed bunk gear also
    Gear is 100% legit. Have heard nothing but great things from these guys. Not that I have stopped the tbol I have been pounding in the calories!
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