Do any vets have ANYTHING good to say about Prohormones?

[Ashop]

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Was wondering if any vets had anything good to say about any Prohormones?

There were some that were very good but the they were actaully just designer oral AAS.
MDROL,SUPERDROL,HDROL,M1T

[songdog]

I love when Boneapart cleans house

[lovbyts]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm not gyno prone but still keep stuff on hand just in case

I read that also, I'm not into dry joints. Winny did that to me a couple of months ago and my shoulders still hurt.

[gixxerboy1]

I read that also, I'm not into dry joints. Winny did that to me a couple of months ago and my shoulders still hurt.

your joints hurt cause your old

[dec11]

Not all of them

epi (ph) was discovered long before var

var got the attention due to the money to be made using it for AIDS wasting patients etc

you gotta sort the good from the bad

epi wasnt heard of in BB circles 15yrs ago my dear boy. and of course these things are pumped out untested, its when the FDA gets round to testing them that they get pulled

[lovbyts]

your joints hurt cause your old

True True. LOL I keep forgetting about that. That's why I take Glucosimine, anti inflammatory daily, starting HA and keep my vic on hand.

[mikey24]

I would say at least 99% of them r total $hit. I like the one's that actually compare themselves to a certain % of Test, frigging hilarious!

[Bonaparte]

I would say at least 99% of them r total $hit. I like the one's that actually compare themselves to a certain % of Test, frigging hilarious!

That's not even possible, since there are far less than 100 compounds that one could call a PH or DS.
That said, I am a huge fan of fabricated statistics and impossible percentages...

[lovbyts]

Substances are made of molecules, which in turn are composed of atoms joined together in a specific pattern. I suppose one might say that hydrogen peroxide, H2O2, is one atom away from water, H2O, but even this is meaningless. That extra oxygen atom changes the properties of the substance dramatically. Stick your finger into a bottle of pure hydrogen peroxide and you will quickly experience the effect of that extra oxygen

One molecule makes a big difference. Ever hear the old story how margarine is one molecule away from plastic? Cheese wizz is one molecule away from a garbage bag, etc.

[gixxerboy1]

BS. Yout dog is prescribed tren ?

[gixxerboy1]

so you get inject-able tren inside the US that's made from a real veterinary company

[lovbyts]

Is it Tren or Finaplex?

[BG]

Lmao @ some of the bs in this thread.

[lovbyts]

Well i guess you could say both because Fina is Tren Acetate and I get Tren Acetate generic form. I dont have any on hand currently cuz i dont like to take Tren, I was just making a point.

I realize that but you are also taking things a little to personal and critical. It's easy to read more into a post since you cant hear the tone and a lot of it depends on our personal mood.

Also being new to a forum it helps to not come out both guns blazing even if you know you are right.

[baseline_9]

I love when Boneapart cleans house

DITTO

Bonaparte and Swifto are great at sweeping the floor with parroting noobs

[gixxerboy1]

Well i guess you could say both because Fina is Tren Acetate and I get Tren Acetate generic form. I dont have any on hand currently cuz i dont like to take Tren, I was just making a point.

there is a difference between getting fina pellets and a vial of injectable tren . Which do you get

[Lemonada8]

Wow missed this fun thread

Sorry DAAS and Bonaparte but 1. prohormones blowi think most people agree and 2. Bonaparte I am not wrong thus the reason you are the only person that says I am. And if you read the back of the package it will say this product is 1(carbon, molecule, atom)do you believe everything on the back of a label of basically a drug that isnt regulated by the FDA? whatever you prefer to call it off, and steroids do contain more than one moleculeNo, the actual steroid is a single molecule. its a hormone, and they have defined structures. The PH's have very similar structures as the hormones but differ at points along the rings that alter its function, making it legal.. I have not been wrong about anything I have wrote ya dont the both of you go and get some factually stuff or maybe other add there thoughts... People prohormones blow and have much more harmful sides than real roids and a 17aa the 2nd 'a' makes the 'steroid' able to bypass digestion in the liver making it a oral available compound. steroid is a roid that has been altered at the 17th carbon molecule thus proving that there is way more than one molecule in steroids and me saying that they are one molecule off froma real steroid doesnt mean that I am saying that molecule has to change for it to work.... I am sayinhg they are made to resembale the same chemical make up thus it being 1 off. Before yall start talking shit you should go and do research also if Im wrong maybe get others to jump inif you are going to get techinically correct and try to correct others, please make sure that you are using correct terminology. hard to believe someone who is correcting someone else if they use incorrect lingo.. You too just both want to be right/ or just looking for the answer you want because Bonaparte half the shit you wrote is wrong. THEY DO CONVERT YOU MORON THUS WHY PEOPLE GET BITCH TITS FROM IT MORON!!!!ALso, partially false. It may convert with 5ar and aromatase, but since the PH primarily binds with the AR (hence the steroid-like growth) it pushes your own test to convert more to estrogen. and if you know your negative feedback, the higher the estrogen the less synthesis of test is pushed out which A) results in elevated estrogen levels = possible gyno growth and b) suppression of natural testosterone production. But then again you both also kinda remind me of guys that would get on a steroid forum to try and push people off of roids and onto some shit that doesnt work.I believe that you have a serious misunderstanding of what is said around here. Where exactly is a PH suggested to people and to not use real synthetic hormones? If you honestly believe that the American FDA would ever ever ever use something Like SD or EPI in place of Anadrol or Var then you truly are a moron. Sorry for the insultd but its true and who give a damn if the JAPS are using it in Clinical trialhumans dont vary from country to country, so by degrading a whole country's research efforts because they are 'JAPS' shows a severe lack of respect to knowledge. and makes it very hard to actually believe what you are saying.s... Y do you think are meds are better we dont do stupid shit like that the point has been made several times, that PH's arent good because of possibilities of effects, and more of a discussion on why.

Myocarditis(a heart infection leading to a heart attack) Incorrect, Myocarditis is swelling/enlargement of the cardiac tissue which puts extra strain on the heart, an effect of androgens in cardiac muscle.

and tren is used for cattle to boost their muscle growth, which equals more meat to sell. thats why there is so much 'fina conversion' information out there due to its for animals and we want it for ourselves but dont use the pellets.

i think thats all...

[DAAS]

This thread is awesome.
Any who... I got various opinions.
So maybe a moderator can lock this thread before juice has a heart attack trying to make bonaparte look wrong.

[Matt]

^^^ Its to funny to lock, just yet....

[DAAS]

yeah your right. maybe we can shoot for 4 pages?

[longhorn1]

used halodrol 50 back in 08. 4 weeks and went from 190@17% to 198@14%. post cycle could not get my body back to feeling/looking normal for months

[Bonaparte]

You have also contridicted yourself Bonaparte when you say that Sdrol doesnt conver to estro/dht... if it didnt conevert to estrogen then there would be NO GYNO!!!! Gyno is not caused by test it is caused when there is to much CONVERSION from Test to Estogen (Which makes your tits bigger not in the good way)

Holy shit. Every post shows just how clueless and arrogant you are.
You don't need an aromatising compound to develop gyno. The gyno from non-aromatising compounds comes after the cycle (without proper PCT), when your test levels are low and your body is estrogen-dominant.

Sdrol is methyl-masteron . Masteron is DHT with a methylation at the 2-position (it can be written as 2-methyl DHT), which keeps it from being enzymatically deactivated in skeletal muscle. DHT derivatives cannot convert to etsrogen.

[Bonaparte]

Sorry DAAS and Bonaparte but 1. prohormones blow and 2. Bonaparte I am not wrong thus the reason you are the only person that says I am. And if you read the back of the package it will say this product is 1(carbon, molecule, atom) whatever you prefer to call it off, and steroids do contain more than one molecule.
Only ones that are bonded to an ester (though the actual active steroid reamins the same), or Dimethazine, which is 2 Sdrol molecules joined by an azine bond.
I have not been wrong about anything I have wrote ya dont the both of you go and get some factually stuff or maybe other add there thoughts... People prohormones blow and have much more harmful sides than real roids and a 17aa steroid is a roid that has been altered at the 17th carbon molecule thus proving that there is way more than one molecule in steroids
You're like...an actual retard, aren't you? Must have made a great cop (and no, that wasn't sarcastic). Carbon is an atom, which is why it is found on the period table of elements.

and me saying that they are one molecule off froma real steroid doesnt mean that I am saying that molecule has to change for it to work.... I am sayinhg they are made to resembale the same chemical make up thus it being 1 off. Before yall start talking shit you should go and do research

I've been learning about this stuff for years. And its quite funny that you would try to call me out, since you obviously just started looking into steroids a few days ago, what with your profound knowledge on the subject.

also if Im wrong maybe get others to jump in. You too just both want to be right/ or just looking for the answer you want because Bonaparte half the shit you wrote is wrong. THEY DO CONVERT YOU MORON THUS WHY PEOPLE GET BITCH TITS FROM IT MORON!!!!
You have the reading comprehension of a chimpanzee. I said that they are active steroids and do not need to convert in order to work. They are no different than "real steroids" apart from the fact that the FDA has not banned them yet

But then again you both also kinda remind me of guys that would get on a steroid forum to try and push people off of roids and onto some shit that doesnt work. If you honestly believe that the American FDA would ever ever ever use something Like SD or EPI in place of Anadrol or Var then you truly are a moron. Sorry for the insultd but its true and who give a damn if the JAPS are using it in Clinical trials... Y do you think are meds are better we dont do stupid shit like that

Answers in bold.

[gixxerboy1]

Answers in bold.

lol. I love how you call them out

[stpete]

Juice...Please throw in the towel.

[chuckt12345]

tried extreme tren awhile back and it royally fkd me up,, yea i got some good gains from it (strength mostly) but coming off was worse than any real cycle i had ever done. Worse than the real shit imo.

[Far from massive]

Bonaparte = 1

Newbie = 0

Pro-Hormones = Suck

[cb714]

I did andro back in the day (way before I should have) and it screwed me all up... Probably the reason I'm on hrt now. I'd just go with the real thing. Price is about the same with better results.