DECA/TEST 12 WEEK Cycle - 7 weeks in and startign HCG - Whats the best protocol???

**G-Dog82** · 07-31-2011, 11:36 PM

Hey guys, Brief about my cycle. 3 cycle...First using Deca and Hcg . I do usually shut down pretty hard so was hoping HCG would help to combat that when pct comes. Just wondering if any experience can help me with the protocol 7 weeks in to cycle and starting hcg until pct in 6 weeks time.

Cycle is -
Test E 1 -12 600mg
Deca - 1-10 400mg
adex - 1mg e3d
hcg - 6 -12?? not sure on dosages (i have 5000iu's)

Was looking to shoot hcg twice a week possible. Can't do eod due to traveling with work etc. Let me know guys, the best procedure....

cheers,

**Valac** · 08-01-2011, 02:03 AM

250ui's twice a week should be enough to help

**G-Dog82** · 08-01-2011, 03:58 AM

Got 5000iu's and i'm on week 6... that would be 10 weeks worth which would go throug my pct.... do you think thats a good thing?? Also should i do a 1000iu shot at the start to get the nuts kick started?

**Dr Pepper** · 08-01-2011, 05:18 AM

I think u should of done more research. You should b already using hcg . Like said above 250iu twice a week will do.

What are you full stats?

**markdbg** · 08-01-2011, 06:24 AM

I'd run the cycle a little longer. Try going deca for 12 weeks and test 14. Deca takes along time before u see results so don't cut it too
Short

**G-Dog82** · 08-01-2011, 10:26 PM

Yeh i would of like to stay on the deca for 12 weeks..being slower ester etc..i just had x 2 10ml 200mg vial of deca avaliable. I probably could of dropped back to 330mg for 12 weeks, may have been the smarter bet but done now and i dont' want to spend cash on another vial...

**G-Dog82** · 08-01-2011, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Pepper

I think u should of done more research. You should b already using hcg . Like said above 250iu twice a week will do.

What are you full stats?

Stats are: 29 years old, 92kg, 6'0, 11 - 15%. 4 cycle, first one that isn't a Test only cycle and have just ran standard nolva/clomid pct. Started 3 years ago running one cycle every year only and this being the first Deca cycle have added HCG to assist in shut down.

I have done my research and as you can understand with HCG info is far from clear cut. Some say use from the start, some say post, some say through cycle and pct and some say use for last 4-6 weeks prior to pct. I appreciate your advice and will probably do so, however I was just getting some clarification on other opinions when starting HCG mid cycle, as stated above i think using hcg from the start isnt the only right of passage. So i was just looking for some further individual info on someone who didn't start from day dot (where the is alot of info on and am aware of 250x2) but 6 weeks in. I have been advised by experienced to do a 1cc shot to shock testes then continue with 400-500iu per week... Thanks

**TheClinch** · 08-01-2011, 10:54 PM

If you do 250iu every 3.5 days you'll be at 500iu/wk. Once pct starts you can up it to 500iu every 3.5 days. That worked nicely for me anyways.

**G-Dog82** · 08-03-2011, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by TheClinch

If you do 250iu every 3.5 days you'll be at 500iu/wk. Once pct starts you can up it to 500iu every 3.5 days. That worked nicely for me anyways.

Sweet i won't need to do a first injection kickstart for time lost? Also run right through pct until done yeah?

**TheClinch** · 08-03-2011, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by G-Dog82

Sweet i won't need to do a first injection kickstart for time lost? Also run right through pct until done yeah?

I use hcg starting in the fourth week of my cycle at 250iu 2x/wk. Once PCT starts I use it at 500iu eod for a week. Then i allow tamoxifen and clomiphene to do their thing for the following 5 weeks. I am yet to get blood work done though to prove this works as well as I feel it does. All I can say is I felt good and seemed to bounce back better than when HCG was only taken during PCT.

**TheClinch** · 08-03-2011, 08:50 AM

I believe it isn't necessary to inject a larger dose at first when using hcg at the beginning of cycle because the treatment will continue for the duration of the cycle giving ample time for yoir testes to respond. I can't seem to locate the study that showed the testes can develop a tolerance to large hcg doses after repeated uses of that method. Maybe someone else can so this point can be elaborated on for you. Listen to your body and if you live in a country where blood work is easy to come by get it done post cycle and examine how the method you choose to use worked for your body. Good luck