Hay people starting gym again need help !!

[Aymankk1]

Hay people I am 20 turning 21 in 3 months and when i turn 21 i will be going back to the gym i have stop going for 1 year due to other commitments. When i go back i will be doing a cycle i was thinking of doing 3 cycle.
1st one will be test e and dinobolts
1-3din 50ml a day
1-12 test e 2 ml a week
2month break
1-12 test e 2ml a week
1-12 deca 200 1ml a week
3month break
1-12 test e 2ml a week
clen !
I will have my strict diet as i always do when i go to gym. I have done previous cycles before but not like this i have only done sus 250 in the pass with dino. So i was wondering what do i take in between or while im using my gear to minimize effects of steroids and is what im doing good ? or not ?! Be free to say whatever i will take all your advice constructively

[snowbo]

hey mate
dont mean to burst your bubble but you wont get any advice from peeps here as you are to young to cycle. there are countless posts that outline why you shouldnt until your over the age of 25.... i think many of the vets around here must have it on copy and paste 24/7 lol

[Bonaparte]

What a joke.
You're too young to use AAS and you lack any sort of dedication. Cycling would be pointless and nobody here will encourage you to use or give you advice.

[Aymankk1]

Thank you for your concern but i have taken steroids before and i have been going to the gym since i was 16 I know everything there is to know when it comes to working out and dedication. So please do not i dont. Either way i will be doing this so i would like to hear what else you have to say thank you.

[lovbyts]

Thank you for your concern but i have taken steroids before and i have been going to the gym since i was 16 I know everything there is to know when it comes to working out and dedication. So please do not i dont. Either way i will be doing this so i would like to hear what else you have to say thank you.

Another child who thinks he knows everything. Hopefully when you mature (another 10+ years) you will realize how little you actually knew now. I started working out at 14, luckily I didnt use anything although I had the chance several times. I though I knew a lot about working out and diet; I didnt and I doubt you do either.

dinobolts? Are those like flinstone vitamins? LOL
Seriously all you are doing is shutting down your natural testosterone and setting yourself up for ED at this point. You mention nothing about PCT (know what that is?) you arent taking enough time off and you are not dedicated enough. Obviously this is a fad to you, not a real commitment. You should have a couple years of continuous working out in the gym without your breaks before thinking of using any aas and as said due to the physical risks alone.

Here is a good place to start education yourself.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...8Great-Read%29

[Littlejonny]

That cycle didn't have much thought put into it did it? What was your 'other cycles' ??

[jasc]

lol LB...

Dinobolts? ahh never knew thats what they called Dbol in high school... good thing you already know it all...

[marcus300]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment

[mkcay7979]

Hay people I am 20 turning 21 in 3 months and when i turn 21 i will be going back to the gym i have stop going for 1 year due to other commitments. When i go back i will be doing a cycle i was thinking of doing 3 cycle.
1st one will be test e and dinobolts
1-3din 50ml a day
1-12 test e 2 ml a week
2month break
1-12 test e 2ml a week
1-12 deca 200 1ml a week
3month break
1-12 test e 2ml a week
clen !
I will have my strict diet as i always do when i go to gym. I have done previous cycles before but not like this i have only done sus 250 in the pass with dino. So i was wondering what do i take in between or while im using my gear to minimize effects of steroids and is what im doing good ? or not ?! Be free to say whatever i will take all your advice constructively

You are to young and you just said you haven't been in the gym for over a yearGet back in the gym for a few years then look in to doing a cycle.

JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A CYCLE BEFORE DOES NOT MEAN YOU WERE OR ARE READY FOR MORE

[Aymankk1]

Hay guys I know the risk at taken steroids before 25 but let me tell you im of middle eastern background and my body has already stop maturing i know this for a fact. I mean i am already getting white hair. Same with my brother he stoped at 20 to. So do not think i am like the general population. And the reason why i choose Dbots at the start is because it is quick acting and i do get good steady results off it. And the PCT is what i was asking and weather or not my three cycles where good enough to reach 90-95 kg lean with very little bodyfat around 5% or less. i use to be this but at 80kg. I do thank you for your concern but please do not treat me as if im still growing i know im not!

height=173
weight=75
body fat-not to sure anymore but i have put on a lot since last year


Any my last cycle was a 12 week one with sus 250 500ml a week and 3 weeks dinobolt 50ml a week and i just used nova as a pct.

As i said thank you for your concern but can we please discuss other issues !

[marcus300]

Your HPTA isnt full developed yet and by shutting it down your natural testosterone may never ever reach its peak which means you having low test for life, things like no sex drive, limp dick, depression, weight loss, mood swings and loads more. By using steroids at your age you will defeat the whole object of why you want to go on them, now go to the diet section and sort your diet out this is were your problem are.

No one will advice a 20yr old to cycle unless they are young and stupid themselves.

[Aymankk1]

Fair enough thanks for your concern werent that much help but i respect your views people !

[Aymankk1]

Actually after reading this twice i am now re-considering taking ASS until maybe another couple years or at least until im 22 Thank you guys !

[lovbyts]

Actually after reading this twice i am now re-considering taking ASS until maybe another couple years or at least until im 22 Thank you guys !

Please read it another 2 or 3 times and hopefully you will wait until 24-25.

[Bonaparte]

Dinobolts? Like lightning bolts from dinosaurs? Holy shit, where can I get some of those bad boys??!!! All I can find are these stupid Dianabol tabs...