kick starting testo levels

[manckman]

im currently on a 6 week course, 1mg testoviron and 1mg deca then 1mg sus and 1mg of deca per week, half way through the course and im planning on what to take for when i come off them, i have tamoxifen , hcg and clomid in mind but aint sure of the dosage or if there are any better ways of getting my testo level up and running and estro levels low, any help out there?

[gixxerboy1]

what are you even taking. 1mg isnt a dose. how are you planning to dose pct when you dont know what you are taking on cycle

[The Bear 79]

Those a soldier ant doses Gixx, dont u know anything..............Pffftt, Geeez.

[manckman]

thats reassuring, guess i neednt bother then

[The Bear 79]

thats reassuring, guess i neednt bother then

These compounds r usually dosed @ 200 or 250 mg / ml that means 1 ml or cc of ur compound contains either 200 or 250 mg. of Test or Deca or Tren or wutever ur using. So when u say ur using 1 mg. it gets the "WTF?!?!?!?"

[Lemonada8]

if you are taking those compounds you may want to find out how much and what exactly you are taking. From there you can decide on a PCT and how to use HCG .

[manckman]

my bad, its 1 ml, of each so 4 a week, sustanon btw

[gixxerboy1]

my bad, its 1 ml, of each so 4 a week, sustanon btw

again i've seen deca that was 100mg per m1 to 400mg per ml.
Also all sust isnt the same mg either.
See we still need more info

[manckman]

alright, thanks for your patience, i got the vials here, testoviron is 250 mg - 1 ml, deca is 100mg - 1ml, sust is 250 mg - 1 ml, im having 1 vial testoviron and 1 vial deca at same time then 3 to 4 days later im having 1 vial sust and 1 vial deca

[gixxerboy1]

and your doing this for 6 weeks total?

[manckman]

yeah

[gixxerboy1]

yeah

i would stop. Your wasting your time. The stuff your taking doesnt really kick in for 4-6 weeks. Your shutting your body down for nothing.

What are your stats?

[manckman]

so i need to do a longer course to gain any effects? stats? my estro and testo levels? i got an appoitment this week to check, im 3 weeks in

[gixxerboy1]

no height, weight, age, bf%

[manckman]

i just looked up testoviron on here, seems like its pretty useless unless im taking a dose every couple of days, you have any recommendations of anything for me in the future?

[manckman]

6 ft 2, 13 st, bmi is 21 and im 27

[gixxerboy1]

6 ft 2, 13 st, bmi is 21 and im 27

i would hit the diet section. You can def put on some lbs naturally

[Lemonada8]

so you are doing 500mg test a week and 200mg deca a week. Not bad dosages, however you need to inform yourself on what you are doing.
First, those esters should be ran for a minimum of 8 weeks and thats on the very low end, typically those are ran for 10-12 weeks.
second, do you have a pct planned? you have the drugs but do you have a plan on how to use them?
third, You should start HCG now at 250iu 2x a week, HCG is for on cycle and not pct.
fourth, is this your first cycle? if so then you should stop the deca now and continue with the test.
fifth, are you having any issues while on the gear? you are 3 weeks in so you are just about to hit sides soon, and are you prepared? know what to expect and how to handle it?
sixth, How is your diet? that is the most important part of cycling, if you cant eat right how can you feed your muscles? You dont wanna lose all you have gained after ur go off the gear right? then make sure you are taking in the proper nutrition.
seventh, CHeck out the pct threads and look how to use what you already have. Since this is a personal thing, the more YOU are informed on what YOU are doing, the better off you will be. Thats why we dont spoonfeed info here, if you have questions on what you have read and want a final check if you are correct then thats great! but you have to do a little research on your own first.
A hint, you do have the right compounds so far, now you need to figure out how to use them. There are stickies that are easy reading and should provide the knowledge you seek.

good luck!

[manckman]

this is my first cycle, never heard of these things before today and feel out of my depth, i should have done the research, thanks for the advice i really appreciate it.
i eat very well tho. get about 130 - 150 gs protein a day, not put on much weight since i started the cycle but gained strength,
Ok so i'll start the hcg now, 250iu twice a week, which one do you recommend? i'll cut the deca out now and thinking of incresaing cycle test to 12 weeks, do i still start hcg now? and when should i start the pct? as soon as i come of or a little earlier? Also when cycle ends should i increase or decrease my workouts? doing 6 exercise's on each muscle with 3 sets of 10 at the moment, back and bis one night, chest and tri, legs and shoulders on others, going nearly every night, am i overtraining?

[gixxerboy1]

your not eating very well though. you are not eating enough to grow. if you did you would put on more weight either it would be fat or muscle but you would get heavier. 130-150g of protein isnt enough.
if you dont adjust your diet your cycle is going to be a complete failure if you extend it or not

[10nispro]

You do need to look at the diet section to get the right nutrients and micros to help build the muscle and allow your body to function correctly.

Stop the deca , run the Test a total of 10-12 weeks, start the HCG , and you begin the pct 14 days after your last test injection. check pct section for test only cycle or first run cycles

Decreased you intensity of workouts after cycle and pay closer attention to your diet.

[10nispro]

Do not listen to the words of Gixx!!!! write them down, hang them on your wall, and worship them!!! He is smarter than his avi is beautiful..

[manckman]

alright i'll up it, dont wana waste my time. Is hcg as effective as tamoxifen ? should i start it now even if i extended to a 12 week cycle?

[manckman]

alright got it, im sure thats true if even hard to believe :P and thanks i'll do just that

[Lemonada8]

HCG and tomaxifen have different actions, so not comparable.
Start HCG now at 250iu 2x a week and continue up untill the first day of taking PCT meds. (gonna be like 2 weeks after last injection of test)

Post a pct plan that you have researched and get feed back. If you do it in this thread, it would be much easier to answer it and already have the back story.

[manckman]

will do, thanks again

[manckman]

im about to buy my hcg , whats the best option, ready mixed vials, powder or capsules?

[Lemonada8]

get the powder. Not ready mixed or capsules.

you mix hcg yourself

[manckman]

thanks, you know a reputable site i can order from?

[Lemonada8]

not for hcg sry. btw u cant really ask that

[manckman]

ok sorry, thanks again though