Second cycle - recommendations but limited options...

**BigDaddyKatz** · 10-18-2011, 05:29 PM

Hey Guys,
I have only ever run one course AAS and it was 500mg of Test E a week followed by Nolva/Clomid PCT (still running currently). Now as I am sure other Australian board members have told you it is a nightmare to hook up gear here (no im not asking for help with this) so my options are basically limited to D-bol, Sust and Enth except one guy reckons he could get me prop.
So what are your recommendations for a cycle, weeks 1-4 dianobol (amount??) and weeks 1-12 sustanon at 2cc's??
I had very minimal if any negative side effects from my first cycle except I tend to want to hold a lot of water but I can live with that.
Thanks in advance.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 09:53 PM

I like to keep it simple mate. 1-4 weeks of d-bol and 12 weeks of test e really does the trick. I really love that cycle

**BigDaddyKatz** · 10-18-2011, 10:01 PM

cool, have you run 3ml (750mg) a week before? if so is it much different to running 2ml ?

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 10:06 PM

No sir, I'm prone to heavy sides, so I keep low doses, (400)..

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by BigDaddyKatz;5***525

cool, have you run 3ml (750mg) a week before? if so is it much different to running 2ml ?

I just finished a 750 mg/wk Test. cycle, I made some impressive gains, but I also had 2 deal with gyno 4 the 1st time since I started using about 5 or 6 yrs ago. I would say stick with the 500 mg/wk, that will yield some pretty good gains & try 30 -50 mg/ed of the D-bol (no mor than 6 wks) BTW, ur gona take a few months OFF b4 u start a new cycle rite?

**boxa06** · 10-19-2011, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by BigDaddyKatz;5***252

Hey Guys,
I have only ever run one course AAS and it was 500mg of Test E a week followed by Nolva/Clomid PCT (still running currently). Now as I am sure other Australian board members have told you it is a nightmare to hook up gear here (no im not asking for help with this) so my options are basically limited to D-bol, Sust and Enth except one guy reckons he could get me prop.
So what are your recommendations for a cycle, weeks 1-4 dianobol (amount??) and weeks 1-12 sustanon at 2cc's??
I had very minimal if any negative side effects from my first cycle except I tend to want to hold a lot of water but I can live with that.
Thanks in advance.

If you don't want this to happen you can run an ai during your cycle such as liquidex. You can order this from ar-r and it's fairly cheap.

**ata1979** · 10-19-2011, 01:35 AM

If you can score the prop that's what I would do. Less sides and water retenion compared to Test E with the same size gains.

**BigDaddyKatz** · 10-19-2011, 02:07 AM

Thanks for all the info guys, firstly I was just going to try dandelion root for the water and see how that goes if it starts to bother me I'll look at some diuretics etc. I was going to start my next cycle in about 3 weeks so that would be a 6 week break...
Interesting I'll do some research on prop...

**xelnaga** · 10-19-2011, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79;5***565

I just finished a 750 mg/wk Test. cycle, I made some impressive gains, but I also had 2 deal with gyno 4 the 1st time since I started using about 5 or 6 yrs ago. I would say stick with the 500 mg/wk, that will yield some pretty good gains & try 30 -50 mg/ed of the D-bol (no mor than 6 wks) BTW, ur gona take a few months OFF b4 u start a new cycle rite?

@ Bear- Quick question. Next cycle are you going to try to hit 750mg again? Or lower the T and add something else? Thanks.

**The Bear 79** · 10-19-2011, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***633

@ Bear- Quick question. Next cycle are you going to try to hit 750mg again? Or lower the T and add something else? Thanks.

I wont b using mor than 5 or 600 mg/wk ever again, the gains r not worth the sides IMO. I ran 600 mg/wk of Eq. with it, which did absolutely nothing 4 me as far as muscle / strength gain, my recovery time after exertion wasn't really all that impressive either, so needless 2 say, I wont b wasting any mor $$$$ on Eq. And then theres the D-bol, I ran it aslo @ 50 mg/wk for 6 wks, & got nothin but water out of it, it was a pretty strange feeling 2 look in the mirror c myself growing, but not b able 2 add any weight 2 the bar, no strength gains from D-bol either.

**jasc** · 10-19-2011, 08:40 AM

Too soon to cycle again
As a rule, time on = time off, and this includes pct. Ideally if you're cycle is 12wk + 4wk pct, you should not begin a new cycle until 16wks after your pct is completed.
If you come off cycle n start a new one 3 wks later your risk of permanent damage is much greater.