been waiting since 22,now im 25 and ready to roll...maybe

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 12:59 PM

Hey guys and girls, im new to this site and saying hey and hopefully make this site work to my advantage! I have just turned 25 and ive been waiting since ive turned 22 to do my 1st cycle. Ive been reading and researching alot so i dont have to ask any stupid questions. I have my opinions just like you people do. I am in the military and will be deploying in a year so a cycle or two sounds like a firm idea in my head.
1st off im 25/5'7/180lbs and i think im around 12%bf, i eat like a champ and train like one also! i eat mostly organic and follow a zone diet that is 5 meals a day at 45g carb/35g protein/and 15g fat give or take. I bench 315,squat 385,and deadlift 485 and i have rowed a 20k and ran a 13min 2 mile! i think its time for the next step.....

i purchased test 400,clomid,hcg ,and arimidex for my 1st cycle. I plan on running .5cc two times a week to stay on a low dose.ive read between 400/500 is a solid choice and sticking to 1 anabolic is also a good choice. i will use the arimidex if i have any sides. i plan on running a 12 week cycle.....

Do you think im ready? should i change anything? Any help would be appreciated and i hope you welcome me because im glad to be here! thanks

**ghettoboyd** · 10-29-2011, 01:08 PM

looks like you did your homework so id say if you think your ready then give it a go and keep us posted...goodluck...

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 01:13 PM

i actually think i put this in the wrong section. I jumped the gun and should have introduced myself and put my closing in another post! My apology! Thanks ghetto, i appreciate it!

**Matt** · 10-29-2011, 01:30 PM

If you would like bro i can move this to the Q&A forum??

Welcome..

**Matt** · 10-29-2011, 01:30 PM

If you would like bro i can move this to the Q&A forum??

Welcome..

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 01:36 PM

yes matt, if u dont mind,if not i can copy and paste it there! either way i do think it should be moved! thanks

**Matt** · 10-29-2011, 01:38 PM

I shall move it bro no problem....

**The Bear 79** · 10-29-2011, 01:56 PM

I commend u 4 holding out bro, good decision. That Test. 400 is a combo of different Test. esters or is it a Test / Deca mix? Or is it 400 mg/ml of Test?

**bjohnson1968** · 10-29-2011, 02:33 PM

Keep in mind you will need to jump those cals up to support your new muscle growth...Seems your a tad low with your protein intake IMHO I would get it up to 2gs per pound

How do you plan on doing your hcg

Props to you for waiting and you should see great results...any questions don't hesitate to ask

**c-Z** · 10-29-2011, 02:37 PM

Its nice to see someone took the time to learn and waited before
Making any quick decisions.

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 03:11 PM

BEAR....its test 400 that is the 3 diff test from mexico (unsure if i can use the actual name on here)! i have not started yet because im doing even more research before hand. Ive heard it hurts pretty bad but im not scared of the pain.Warming it up and warming my butt cheek up is a must lol. I plan on waiting another week before i start.

BJOHNSON...I plan on upping cals up when i start,i dont want to gain alot of fat while on this cycle but i plan on upping fat and protein both while maintaining carbs. I lose weight when i eat heavy healthy fats.I plan on hitting alot of cardio because i know my muscle growth will effect my stamina on a mandatory 2 mile run for the military. My joints should hold up fine because i take fish oil and my joint supplement religiously. On the hcg i have read to take it the last week of your test and the 2 weeks after your cycle. So week 11-13 i will use hcg. Does that sound like a plan? I do realize this is not a cutting cycle but i hope to keep my bf or maybe lower it! Never had a full 6pack.....its irritating!

I appreciate the kinds words from you guys!

**c-Z** · 10-29-2011, 03:13 PM

As long as its not ugl you are fine.
Pharm grade you can discuss..

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 03:15 PM

Ugl! But I'm hearing mixed reviews

**The Bear 79** · 10-29-2011, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

BEAR....its test 400 that is the 3 diff test from mexico (unsure if i can use the actual name on here)! i have not started yet because im doing even more research before hand. Ive heard it hurts pretty bad but im not scared of the pain.Warming it up and warming my butt cheek up is a must lol. I plan on waiting another week before i start.

BJOHNSON...I plan on upping cals up when i start,i dont want to gain alot of fat while on this cycle but i plan on upping fat and protein both while maintaining carbs. I lose weight when i eat heavy healthy fats.I plan on hitting alot of cardio because i know my muscle growth will effect my stamina on a mandatory 2 mile run for the military. My joints should hold up fine because i take fish oil and my joint supplement religiously. On the hcg i have read to take it the last week of your test and the 2 weeks after your cycle. So week 11-13 i will use hcg. Does that sound like a plan? I do realize this is not a cutting cycle but i hope to keep my bf or maybe lower it! Never had a full 6pack.....its irritating!

I appreciate the kinds words from you guys!

OK, 400 - 500 mg/wk for 10 - 12 wks should yield some pretty nice results, provided ur diet & training r tuned in. The HCG should b used throughout the cycle but not PCT, 250 iu/wk should b enuf.

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 03:34 PM

then should i not use the arimidex ? another question i have is kinda far-fetched...... using 400mg/wk for 12 weeks, will i still be able to convince people ive just been eating and training right? I hate people asking my questions! I mean 12wks is 3 months and id think its possible to lie and someone believe me! I guess im asking what will happen? maybe loose bf and gain muscle to where i only gain 10-15lbs?! I hate asking stupid questions but i weigh my pros vs. cons better than anyone i know!

**The Bear 79** · 10-29-2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

then should i not use the arimidex? another question i have is kinda far-fetched...... using 400mg/wk for 12 weeks, will i still be able to convince people ive just been eating and training right? I hate people asking my questions! I mean 12wks is 3 months and id think its possible to lie and someone believe me! I guess im asking what will happen? maybe loose bf and gain muscle to where i only gain 10-15lbs?! I hate asking stupid questions but i weigh my pros vs. cons better than anyone i know!

U can use the rim throughout the cycle as a preventative measure or u can just use it if u see any sign of gyno, and the gains u will mak on this cycle wont b so exponential that u wont b able 2 convince every1 that ur natty.

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 03:42 PM

Thats what i wanted to hear bear! It looks like im leaning to alot more pros than cons!

BG · 10-29-2011, 03:42 PM

Good job on waiting, now i recommend priming before your cycle to get the most out of it.

**dec11** · 10-29-2011, 04:56 PM

you need to edit that name OP, its UGL and not allowed on open board. also, you may find that stuff quite painful to inject

good job on waiting for your 1st cycle, you've a very good base to work with

**bjohnson1968** · 10-29-2011, 05:20 PM

I agree Bear in the Hcg usage throughout your cycle....IMHO I would incorporate a low dose AI during cycle as well .25 adex eod to start

**bjohnson1968** · 10-29-2011, 05:29 PM

You may want to get nolva to add to your clomid for pct. I would think most here recommend running both

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 07:44 PM

I do not have access to nolvadex and i dont think i can find it. Will me not being able to get nolvadex be a big issue?

**The Bear 79** · 10-29-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

I do not have access to nolvadex and i dont think i can find it. Will me not being able to get nolvadex be a big issue?

As far as I know, AR-R is up & runnin again, u can get Nolvadex / Tomoxafin from them.

**randymeans** · 10-29-2011, 08:20 PM

Im from the u.s., will i 100% be able to get it? it seems like the company is from australia!

**Tigershark** · 10-30-2011, 10:52 AM

Welcome.

**The Bear 79** · 10-30-2011, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by randymeans

Im from the u.s., will i 100% be able to get it? it seems like the company is from australia!

AR-R is reliable, almost every1 here uses them.

**PK-V** · 10-30-2011, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

Im from the u.s., will i 100% be able to get it? it seems like the company is from australia!

AR is US based

as is 99% of RC's

**randymeans** · 10-30-2011, 12:41 PM

tomo is nolvadex ? what other products have you tried?

**dec11** · 10-30-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

tomo is nolvadex? what other products have you tried?

correct

**The Bear 79** · 10-30-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

tomo is nolvadex? what other products have you tried?

I've used AR-R 's Liquid Letro.

**randymeans** · 10-30-2011, 12:56 PM

liquid letro is?

I also want to point out that i hate kids doing any kind of "gear"! i have a good friend who just turned 21 and bought some winni and is dead set on doing it. He is 5'7 and 195lbs at about 20% bf.....he just wont freakin listen! thats all for now!

**The Bear 79** · 10-30-2011, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

liquid letro is?

I also want to point out that i hate kids doing any kind of "gear"! i have a good friend who just turned 21 and bought some winni and is dead set on doing it. He is 5'7 and 195lbs at about 20% bf.....he just wont freakin listen! thats all for now!

Liquid Letro is Letrozole , the most powerful AI available. Send ur friend here 4 a little chat, or print up some articles on the adverse effects of cycling too yung & mak him read them.

**randymeans** · 10-30-2011, 01:22 PM

That what i plan on doing,hes sooo dumb! Ill get the tomo and used with clomid! If i have 25cc of test, should i do 1cc a week for 12 weeks and save the other 13cc for next cycle?

**The Bear 79** · 10-30-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by randymeans

That what i plan on doing,hes sooo dumb! Ill get the tomo and used with clomid! If i have 25cc of test, should i do 1cc a week for 12 weeks and save the other 13cc for next cycle?

Yeah, 400 mg/wk is a reasonable starting point.

**randymeans** · 10-31-2011, 08:50 AM

Instead of starting a new thread ill just ask it on this thread. What is the purpose of winstrol if you don't compete in bodybuilding?i have access to some injectable but I don't see any benefit for me unless I'm completely missing something! P.s. I do as much research as possible before I ask questions because it pisses me off when someone ask a question when the answer can easily be googled!

**JohnnyB11** · 10-31-2011, 12:05 PM

hmmm. Something tells me this guy isn't 25.

**randymeans** · 10-31-2011, 12:14 PM

Hmm that's you opinion buddy! I don't have nothing to prove to you! I try to be respectable but let's keep stupid opinions to yourself! Winni seems dumb,who want to take a change on their joint hurting and causing injuries! But since we like give opinions,id say your a new member trying to be cocky! Go workout your arms and get off my thread! Thanks,randy

**The Situation** · 10-31-2011, 12:19 PM

Easy dude. Why so angry over that little comment? Maybe you can't handle gear...

**randymeans** · 10-31-2011, 12:35 PM

I don't get angry,I simply state what's on my mind! Ya know,some people actually do "gear" to increase their atheletic ability,not just to pick up chiks and pose in the mirror! That's why I asked about winstrol ! Ben jonhson was tested after winning the olympic games and tested positve for it so I'm wondering why it would be used if it dries out your joints! I don't know how any of this could make me sound like a kid!