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    19-20% BF, take armidex??

    Having a bf% a little higher (19-20%) would it be a good idea to run armidex during a cycle to prevent aromitization? I understand that a higher bf% results in more aromitization and more estrogen related side effects... What is the average does to use during a cycle as well? 12.5mg eod??

    Thanks for the help.

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    i would drop the bf first.
    adex is usually dose at .25-.5 mg eod

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    agreed, get that bf down

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    12.5mg of adex would be way too much but over all lowering your bf% is your best bet.

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    educate b4 medicate bro

    as guys above stated that suggested dose is WAY OFF ....TOO HIGH...

    always a good idea to have bloodwork done to know your hormone levels so if you ever do run aas you will know how they were effected

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    dont rely on low body fat to keep the estrogen from hapening,i havnt seen any difference between 3% body fat and 15% body fat.I had issues with estrogen when i was down to 3% Bf preping for a contest. Thats too much Adex,.5mg EOD should be enough unless your doing a lot of steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatluke_nofx View Post
    Having a bf% a little higher (19-20%) would it be a good idea to run armidex during a cycle to prevent aromitization? I understand that a higher bf% results in more aromitization and more estrogen related side effects... What is the average does to use during a cycle as well? 12.5mg eod??

    Thanks for the help.
    Did you mean to ask about aromasin ? 12.5mg EOD would be a normal dose if that's what you meant.

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    AROMATASE ACTIVITY IN ADIPOSE TISSUE
    Aromatase is an enzyme present in many tissues, but particularly
    in adipose tissue. Specifically, this enzyme, aromatase
    cytochrome P450, is encoded by the CYP19 gene.23 This
    converts androgens to oestrone and oestradiol.
    Adipose tissue contains adipocytes that carry the accumulated
    fat burden itself, as well as stromal cells, which are relatively
    thinly dispersed blood vessels and fibroblasts. It appears
    that 90% of the aromatase activity in fatty tissue is found in
    the stromal cells, particularly the fibroblasts,24 although some
    is also found in monocyte derived macrophages.25 Of some
    importance is the fact that the fractional conversion of
    androstenedione to oestrogens in obese subjects may not
    decrease after weight loss, probably because the number of
    stromal cells in the remaining adipose tissue does not appreciably
    decrease.24 26 Furthermore, aromatase activity and its
    expression in adipose tissue is markedly potentiated by
    various promoters,27 as well as by the cytokine IL-6 and
    tumour necrosis factor (TNF).28 29 Adipose stromal cells from
    omental fat, but not subcutaneous fat, have been shown to
    generate active cortisol from inactive glucocorticosteroids
    through the expression of the enzyme 11-b-hydroxy steroid
    dehydrogenase.30 These active glucocorticoids further encourage
    aromatase activity.31 Other workers have shown that
    aromatase activity, at least in subcutaneous adipose tissue, is
    higher in men than women.32 The rate of conversion of testosterone
    to oestrogen in omental tissue appears to be slower
    than in other adipose tissue sites, although the final
    concentrations of oestrogens in both sites are similar.24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    Did you mean to ask about aromasin? 12.5mg EOD would be a normal dose if that's what you meant.
    surprised no-one else noticed that.

    OP you obviously need to do alot of researching, there is a big difference in 12.5mgs adex and 12.5mgs masin

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X View Post
    AROMATASE ACTIVITY IN ADIPOSE TISSUE
    Aromatase is an enzyme present in many tissues, but particularly
    in adipose tissue. Specifically, this enzyme, aromatase
    cytochrome P450, is encoded by the CYP19 gene.23 This
    converts androgens to oestrone and oestradiol.
    Adipose tissue contains adipocytes that carry the accumulated
    fat burden itself, as well as stromal cells, which are relatively
    thinly dispersed blood vessels and fibroblasts. It appears
    that 90% of the aromatase activity in fatty tissue is found in
    the stromal cells, particularly the fibroblasts,24 although some
    is also found in monocyte derived macrophages.25 Of some
    importance is the fact that the fractional conversion of
    androstenedione to oestrogens in obese subjects may not
    decrease after weight loss, probably because the number of
    stromal cells in the remaining adipose tissue does not appreciably
    decrease.24 26 Furthermore, aromatase activity and its
    expression in adipose tissue is markedly potentiated by
    various promoters,27 as well as by the cytokine IL-6 and
    tumour necrosis factor (TNF).28 29 Adipose stromal cells from
    omental fat, but not subcutaneous fat, have been shown to
    generate active cortisol from inactive glucocorticosteroids
    through the expression of the enzyme 11-b-hydroxy steroid
    dehydrogenase.30 These active glucocorticoids further encourage
    aromatase activity.31 Other workers have shown that
    aromatase activity, at least in subcutaneous adipose tissue, is
    higher in men than women.32 The rate of conversion of testosterone
    to oestrogen in omental tissue appears to be slower
    than in other adipose tissue sites, although the final
    concentrations of oestrogens in both sites are similar.24
    quoted from where?

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    opps sorry guys, i did mean aromisin, not adex. But would the proper amount of aromisin be 10-12mg eod while on cycle to control estrogen related side effects? (sorry one typo makes a total different posting...)

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    thanks everyone for all the responce btw.

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