4th cycle critique please

**SkylineGTR** · 11-25-2011, 01:05 PM

Stats
27 yrs 5'8" 210 probably under 12% bf

Its been a little over 7 months since my last cycle. the last one was 750 cyp, 400 tren E, 600 EQ. i've lost some gains since then bc of work schedules, moving, being sick etc. Here is what my next cycle might be.

Dbol OR Anadrol ? Weeks 1-5 50mgs dbol or 100mgs Anadrol
Test E Weeks 1-14 750mg
Deca Weeks 1-12 600mg i have been told to keep lower than test, anyone ran more? could i do 900
Tren E Weeks 1-12 400mg

I have been wanting to try masteron . should i take something out and replace it with masteron? Or should I do that with a cutting cycle?

Obviously a good PCT.

My goals are to do my first show sometime next summer. I figure I'd do a good bulker now for the next few months and wait about 3 months and do a cutter. Does this seem achieveable time frame for something like that?

**canadianbrah** · 11-25-2011, 02:45 PM

What were your gains like in the last cycle?

**SkylineGTR** · 11-25-2011, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by canadianbrah

What were your gains like in the last cycle?

i went from 205 to 230.

**FONZY007** · 11-25-2011, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by SkylineGTR

Stats
27 yrs 5'8" 210 probably under 12% bf

Its been a little over 7 months since my last cycle. the last one was 750 cyp, 400 tren E, 600 EQ. i've lost some gains since then bc of work schedules, moving, being sick etc. Here is what my next cycle might be.

Dbol OR Anadrol ? Weeks 1-5 50mgs dbol or 100mgs Anadrol
Test E Weeks 1-14 750mg
Deca Weeks 1-12 600mg i have been told to keep lower than test, anyone ran more? could i do 900
Tren E Weeks 1-12 400mg

I have been wanting to try masteron . should i take something out and replace it with masteron? Or should I do that with a cutting cycle?

Obviously a good PCT.

My goals are to do my first show sometime next summer. I figure I'd do a good bulker now for the next few months and wait about 3 months and do a cutter. Does this seem achieveable time frame for something like that?

So u pretty much lost all your gains but kept 5 lbs ?

**stpete** · 11-25-2011, 03:56 PM

Good point Fonzy...And why 2 19-nors?

What would be a good PCT for this cycle? Any HCG or AI?

**SkylineGTR** · 11-25-2011, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

So u pretty much lost all your gains but kept 5 lbs ?

yup...like i said....i got sick...and got a second job and was workin 7 days a week for a while....

**stpete** · 11-25-2011, 07:52 PM

My questions go unanswered...Tells me all i need to know. You've had more than enough time to respond to a question that is far more important than the one you just answered.

Just trying to help...

**SkylineGTR** · 11-25-2011, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

My questions go unanswered...Tells me all i need to know. You've had more than enough time to respond to a question that is far more important than the one you just answered.

Just trying to help...

dude, relax. Don't take shit personal. I had time to respond to one then do some things and now im back.

Anyways, I figured having deca and tren would work out fine. Am I mistaken? I know both shut you down hard but isnt that what PCT is for?

My pct is Arimidex and Clomid. Never done HCG in any of my PCTs before and have bounced back fine. But I would do it possibly after this cycle. I'll have to look into it more before I decide on that. But I heard HCG will also shut you down so it isn't good during a PCT...?

**stpete** · 11-25-2011, 10:10 PM

I'm perfectly relaxed. Are you? And i don't take anything personal. Well, unless of course you're one of my friends and you're telling me to calm down. Then i'll listen and take advice.

I'm not really sure where to start w/you. We appreciate you being a member and asking questions. But it seems to me that you haven't done any research whatsoever. And that's ok...I have nothing better to do tonight.

Can i ask who told you that Arimidex and Clomid is a good PCT? And, "you've never done HCG in any of my PCT's before and have bounced back fine." But you would do it after this cycle? And, HCG will shut you down...

Back to the drawing board for you...Good Luck in your endeavors and if there's anything i/we can do to help just reach out and ask.

But just for shitz and giggles....Will you let me know your PCT? I mean the whole PCT Cycle....Just to check it out...Thanks!

**SkylineGTR** · 11-26-2011, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

I'm perfectly relaxed. Are you? And i don't take anything personal. Well, unless of course you're one of my friends and you're telling me to calm down. Then i'll listen and take advice.

I'm not really sure where to start w/you. We appreciate you being a member and asking questions. But it seems to me that you haven't done any research whatsoever. And that's ok...I have nothing better to do tonight.

Can i ask who told you that Arimidex and Clomid is a good PCT? And, "you've never done HCG in any of my PCT's before and have bounced back fine." But you would do it after this cycle? And, HCG will shut you down...

Back to the drawing board for you...Good Luck in your endeavors and if there's anything i/we can do to help just reach out and ask.

But just for shitz and giggles....Will you let me know your PCT? I mean the whole PCT Cycle....Just to check it out...Thanks!

I follow Pheedno's PCT. Here is the link....actually from this forum.... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-Pheedno-s-PCT

Not sure why we got on the subject of my PCT because that is not what im concerned about. I am asking about the cycle itself. That alone. I appreciate anyones advice because you learn something new everyday. So please stick to what the post is about.

**Matt** · 11-26-2011, 01:35 PM

Imo i would swap the deca for masterone for sure...

I like the cycle mate and please keep us updated...

**SkylineGTR** · 11-26-2011, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

Imo i would swap the deca for masterone for sure...

I like the cycle mate and please keep us updated...

Any particular reason you'd swap the deca for masteron ? If I were to do that I;m thinkin 500mg/wk. Shooting 100mg EOD. If for some reason I could not get the masterone. Would this cycle still be ok?

Thanks for the post!

**Matt** · 11-26-2011, 04:18 PM

Its a personal thing, imo masterone compliments tren every well and yes 500mgs would work very well..

**SG2009** · 11-26-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by SkylineGTR

Stats
27 yrs 5'8" 210 probably under 12% bf

Its been a little over 7 months since my last cycle. the last one was 750 cyp, 400 tren E, 600 EQ. i've lost some gains since then bc of work schedules, moving, being sick etc. Here is what my next cycle might be.

Dbol OR Anadrol ? Weeks 1-5 50mgs dbol or 100mgs Anadrol
Test E Weeks 1-14 750mg
Deca Weeks 1-12 600mg i have been told to keep lower than test, anyone ran more? could i do 900
Tren E Weeks 1-12 400mg

I have been wanting to try masteron . should i take something out and replace it with masteron? Or should I do that with a cutting cycle?

Obviously a good PCT.

My goals are to do my first show sometime next summer. I figure I'd do a good bulker now for the next few months and wait about 3 months and do a cutter. Does this seem achieveable time frame for something like that?

12 weeks of deca @ 600mg.....dude u need to revise your cycle!

**SkylineGTR** · 11-26-2011, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by SG2009

12 weeks of deca @ 600mg.....dude u need to revise your cycle!

I haven't heard any reason that 12 weeks is too harsh....besides it shutting u down hard. Matt seems to think its a pretty solid cycle As "AR's hot british pimp daddy vet" I trust his judgment. Unless you feel otherwise id be glad to hear what you think would be a better timeframe. I do have my test being 2 weeks longer than my deca .

**resudior12** · 11-26-2011, 10:50 PM

U should try Tren E, Test E and EQ I stead of Decca. That cycle would give u more lean gains

**Matt** · 11-27-2011, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by SkylineGTR

I haven't heard any reason that 12 weeks is too harsh....besides it shutting u down hard. Matt seems to think its a pretty solid cycle As "AR's hot british pimp daddy vet" I trust his judgment. Unless you feel otherwise id be glad to hear what you think would be a better timeframe. I do have my test being 2 weeks longer than my deca.

Either way bro, run the deca or masterone and its a great cycle you have your test e running for that extra two weeks so imo all looks good...

I would add hcg and run a solid pct....

But all looks good, btw my next cycle will contain 2000mgs of deca, besides other compounds...

**SG2009** · 11-27-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

btw my next cycle will contain 2000mgs of deca, besides other compounds...

That's alot of mgs Matt, I will try to track your progress should u start that cycle. btw do u have professional bodybuilding picture taken?

**buster12** · 11-28-2011, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by SkylineGTR

Stats
27 yrs 5'8" 210 probably under 12% bf

Its been a little over 7 months since my last cycle. the last one was 750 cyp, 400 tren E, 600 EQ. i've lost some gains since then bc of work schedules, moving, being sick etc. Here is what my next cycle might be.

Dbol OR Anadrol ? Weeks 1-5 50mgs dbol or 100mgs Anadrol
Test E Weeks 1-14 750mg
Deca Weeks 1-12 600mg i have been told to keep lower than test, anyone ran more? could i do 900
Tren E Weeks 1-12 400mg

I have been wanting to try masteron . should i take something out and replace it with masteron? Or should I do that with a cutting cycle?

Obviously a good PCT.

My goals are to do my first show sometime next summer. I figure I'd do a good bulker now for the next few months and wait about 3 months and do a cutter. Does this seem achieveable time frame for something like that?

My m8 did similar cycle
D bol 40mcg 1-4 weeks
Test E 1-14 mixed with Tren E
Deca 600mcg 1-10 weeks
HCG last 6 weeks of cycle

PCT was Nolva and Clomid
His diet was clean and 5k calories per day 8 meals per day
36lbs gained and he lost 9lbs
age 37