Dbol + Sustanon 250 + Deca

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 06:26 PM

Hey guys, I'm new to the world of steroids and would like to get abit of your experience in this matter.
I'm thinking of doing a 6 weeks cyle as my first cycle ever using Dbol +Sustanon250+Deca .
4weeks of Dbol.
6weeks of Sustanon .
6weeks of Deca.

I'm 21 years old have bent training for more than 2 years now and I'm 5.5ft stuck at 150 pounds for about 6 months now.
Any thoughts about the dosage and the PCT i should use?
is this a good cycle to start with ?

Thanks!

BG · 11-26-2011, 06:35 PM

Thats a real bad idea you have going. Too many compounds for first cycle, not long enought for the deca . Whats your diet and supplements look like. You can acheive some nice gains from a good supplement set up......

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 07:53 PM

My diet is around 3000 cal a day most carbs and protein not a lot of fat and my main supplements are Serious mass from optimum nutrition

and about my cycle you think i should mae it 8 or 10 weeks of deca ? what compound should i throw out of the cycle ?

**Far from massive** · 11-26-2011, 08:09 PM

I don't know if you are aware already but you would be unwise to cycle at 21 as your HPTA is still developing. Assuming you have little knowlege of steroids let me say that if you were to make the decision to cycle anyway despite the risks you would be a lot better off using a simple cycle of Test for your first go round. Deca is very hard to recover from and would greatly increase the chance of permanent damage to you HPTA.

I would suggest you do some reading on the site, there are some good articles one is called the young and steroids it outlines the risks faced by cycling at an early age. In addition there are tons of articles on begginer cycles and PCT ( you do plan to have PCT chems in hand before starting your cycle don't you?) as well as a ton of information on side effects like aromatization and how to deal with it.

However there is also a great deal of information here on how to break through sticking points in ones natural progression without the use of steroids. Changes in diet. sleep and workouts can almost always net huge gains for anyone who is not training under an expert trainer. Anyway that would be my suggestion, to look at what you could do naturally and while you are making these changes continue to read about AAS usage and PCT so that you can make an informed decision if and when you decide to cycle.

Good luck,

FFM

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 08:34 PM

I know that Dbol alone isnt that effective but if i took safest dosage at my age could it harshly affect me ?

**stpete** · 11-26-2011, 08:34 PM

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**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 08:37 PM

Agreed about what exactly ? :P

**stpete** · 11-26-2011, 08:39 PM

Agree w/ farfrommassive.....

**SG2009** · 11-26-2011, 08:43 PM

for a first cycle ...start with Test E or Test C for 12 for weeks with option of Dbol or Deca at low dosage. Read the profile on each of these substance and follow the cycles recommended on the webpage here or on your source webpage. better yet start with research first and ask questions from the pros here...Good luck.

Originally Posted by superme11

Hey guys, I'm new to the world of steroids and would like to get abit of your experience in this matter.
I'm thinking of doing a 6 weeks cyle as my first cycle ever using Dbol+Sustanon250+Deca.
4weeks of Dbol.
6weeks of Sustanon .
6weeks of Deca.

I'm 21 years old have bent training for more than 2 years now and I'm 5.5ft stuck at 150 pounds for about 6 months now.
Any thoughts about the dosage and the PCT i should use?
is this a good cycle to start with ?

Thanks!

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by SG2009

for a first cycle ...start with Test E or Test C for 12 for weeks with option of Dbol or Deca at low dosage. Read the profile on each of these substance and follow the cycles recommended on the webpage here or on your source webpage. better yet start with research first and ask questions from the pros here...Good luck.

Acutely i had this cycle in mind from the beginning but did not mention it.

It goes like this

Weeks-------T. ENANTHATE ----------DIANABOL ----------NOLVADEX ------------PROVIRON
1-------------500mg/week------------20mg/day
2-------------500mg/week------------30mg/day
3-------------500mg/week------------30mg/day-----------------------------------1 tab/day
4-------------750mg/week------------40mg/day-----------------------------------1 tab/day
5-------------500mg/week------------30mg/day-----------------------------------1 tab/day
6-------------500mg/week------------30mg/day-----------------------------------1 tab/day
7-------------250mg/week
8
9
10------------------------------------------------------------1 tab/day
11------------------------------------------------------------1 tab/day
12------------------------------------------------------------1 tab/day

What do you think ?

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 08:56 PM

damn that didnt look like i wanted to -.- wait ill make it more clear

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 09:00 PM

Much better

**RangersLTW** · 11-26-2011, 09:04 PM

All bad ideas....everyone here has given you good advice

No to the test e for 6 weeks....waste

You should not cycle at your age...however you probably are anyway but not advised from any members here

You just need this cycle

Week one thru your old enough to take aas

Kitchen
Gym
Kitchen

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 09:18 PM

Then how many weeks should i run test e and danabol m8 ?

**stpete** · 11-26-2011, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

All bad ideas....everyone here has given you good advice

No to the test e for 6 weeks....waste

You should not cycle at your age...however you probably are anyway but not advised from any members here

You just need this cycle

Week one thru your old enough to take aas

Kitchen
Gym
Kitchen

Nice!! and you're right...

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 09:34 PM

Well if im going with AAS anyway at least advise me with the proper way to do it rather than letting me on my own.
What roid do you think is safest for me to stack ? at what dosage ? and for how long ?
lets assume i can have my hand on ANY roid even the purest HGH.

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 09:39 PM

I really appreciate all the help and the effort you guys are putting to help me thanks again!

**stpete** · 11-26-2011, 10:08 PM

At 18 years old, you should be stacking 1 cup of oats w/6whole eggs.

You shouldn't even be considering juice at your age! Not to mention, stacking! What are you thinking?

How about you get a solid training regimen down along w/a solid diet? You'd be amazed at the results you will gain without losing sleep worrying if you'll be able to get a hard on if choosing AAS. I can't imagine anything worse than a lady wanting to fvck and not being able to satisfy...

Something to think about...

**superme11** · 11-26-2011, 10:17 PM

Dude i think you got my thread confused with another one Im 21 going to 22 next month >.>

**superme11** · 11-27-2011, 02:17 AM

I did some homework and found that many agree that this is a great beginners cycle.

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day.
week 1-12 Test E 400mg/day.

I could use a bit of help knowing when to use nolva to prevent gyno and how my PCT should look like.

**SG2009** · 11-27-2011, 11:04 PM

For a beginner i won't say that's a bad cycle. 4yrs ago I started with 500mg of Test E every week for 12 wks and 50mg of Dbol everyday for the first four weeks. Took some clomid and nolva at the end of the cycle. I gained 22Ibs....but I must say I had a good diet plan: Lots of beef sandwiches lol

Originally Posted by superme11

I did some homework and found that many agree that this is a great beginners cycle.

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day.
week 1-12 Test E 400mg/day.

I could use a bit of help knowing when to use nolva to prevent gyno and how my PCT should look like.

**stpete** · 11-27-2011, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by superme11

I did some homework and found that many agree that this is a great beginners cycle.

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day.
week 1-12 Test E 400mg/day.

I could use a bit of help knowing when to use nolva to prevent gyno and how my PCT should look like.

You're right, i had you mixed up. Sorry about that.

But to be honest man, there's really not much difference. At your age you can do so much w/a good diet and training schedule, in conjunction w/all the natural hormones going thru you right now, you can gain like crazy and keep damn near all of it if you continue to just be somewhat active. Don't piss that away. Juice will always be around. And wouldn't you get more satisfaction out of knowing what you can do naturally first? Max out on that!
You have a long way to go and you're young. Eat like a mad man and train like there's no tomorrow. you'll be glad you did.
By the way...PCT and gyno prevention is all messed up. And i hope your test e dosages are a typo..
Good Luck

**superme11** · 11-28-2011, 04:02 PM

Thanks a lot man, my Test e was a typo and i will consider your advise and will try to hit another 6 months of natural and see what happens. last 6 months no gains even when i ate like a mad man, lets see what happens the next 6 months if still no gains ill come back and talk to you again :P

**ghettoboyd** · 11-28-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by superme11

Thanks a lot man, my Test e was a typo and i will consider your advise and will try to hit another 6 months of natural and see what happens. last 6 months no gains even when i ate like a mad man, lets see what happens the next 6 months if still no gains ill come back and talk to you again :P

heres the thing your not grasping bro...if your current diet cant net you any gains natty then whatever you do gain with aas will shurly dissapear when your done because you arnt getting the proper macros to gain/sustain growth...what you need to do is really dive into the diet peice of the equasion cus it in fact is more important part of training/cycleing...once you get that down then you can do as you please but at least give yourself a chance at success before you just wast your money pinning your hopes on the drugs...good luck..